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Laws of Conservation?

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onifre
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03-04-2009 6:56 PM 		Reply to: Message 73 by Richard Townsend
03-04-2009 5:19 PM

Re: Time
But I'd like to challenge you on saying time, length and width do not arise - I think they do.
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I think we'll end up in a semantical debate about the word 'arise' but lets go with it nonetheless.
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Time is an emergent property of the 3D space we experience. I think 'arise' can replace 'emerge' and we'd be on the same page, so to speak. That it is relevant to us is the only way time, as a function, exists. How else do you see time functioning other than as a unit of measurement used by those who can actually measure?
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What I do not agree with, if this is what you're driving at, is that 'time' is introduced somehow into our universe, considering the universe to be 3D space, from some other location or - lest we go there - entity.
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The number of dimensions of the universe is a property that it has - that theoretically could be different from what we observe.
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From what I've read, yes. Apparently so, but I wouldn't be able to give an educated answer on that.
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The concept of length can only arise from the existence of a such a space dimension. I think time is a similar concept.
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Speculating aside, we really have no other understanding of time other than what has been observed. I wouldn't go as far as to say that length and time are properties of only our spacial dimension, but if I tried to explain that any further I would just be talking out my ass - or arse - for the UK folks.
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onifre
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03-04-2009 7:04 PM 		Reply to: Message 74 by Richard Townsend
03-04-2009 5:24 PM

Re: Time
I was being a smartypants when I used the word event
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You don't have to explain that to me, dude. I once thought the BB was an event. Before college I was one of those that thought the BB refered to an actual 'explosion' - a BIG BANG. Why the fuck would they name it that and totally confuse me? Why didn't they just call it Cosmological Expansion in the mainstream, I guess it's not as catchy as BIG BANG?
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But I learned and now have a better understanding of it. There is nothing wrong with being wrong. It serves it's purpose when approaching an answer, mainly, that it's wrong in comparison to what is right.
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