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Author Topic:   Mr. Warren's "10 questions". Value and Laws Subset
Taz
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Message 5 of 11 (491335)
12-14-2008 12:01 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Huntard
12-14-2008 8:17 AM


Huntard writes:
1) True or false: Value did not exist before the first human being.
This is false. If he had said before there was intelligence, I would've agreed with him.
Define value. Depends on what is meant by value, the answer would either be true or I don't know. False cannot be an answer for this question.
2) True or false: In murdering 6 million Jewish men women and children, the Nazis were guilty of real, objective, moral wrong.
False. There is no objective moral wrong.
I beg to differ.
3) In torturing and or murdering 6 million Jews, the Nazis were guilty of violating:
The law of Germany
The law of England
The law of the United States
The law of god
Some other law
No law at all
Now, I don't know what all these laws were at the time, so I would have to go with "No law at all". The reason we could convict the Nazis was quite simple. We won the war.
You're wrong here. The only way the nazis could have gotten away with their own law was if they could justify the holocaust as war related. Other than that, they had laws regarding stealing, kidnapping, and murder just like the rest of us. The difference was they didn't have a justice system that would enforce those laws.
8) Each one of us has a real moral objective obligation to become an atheist, so that if he does not become such, he becomes guilty of real objective moral wrong.
False. There is no objective moral right or wrong, therefore, one cannot have that obligation.
I beg to differ.
9) Real objective evil exists.
False.
I beg to differ.
10) From the concept of god and the actual existence of subjective evil, one can soundly deduce the non existence of god.
Since there is no universal concept of god, this question makes no sense to me.
I beg to differ.

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Taz
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Message 10 of 11 (491769)
12-20-2008 9:08 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by kuresu
12-14-2008 7:26 PM


I'm puzzled about something. Are you agreeing or disagreeing with me? Your post seems to be a regurgitation of what I said in different arrangement of words.

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