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Author Topic:   Does the Bible say the Earth was created in 6 days, 6000 years ago?
Integral
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Message 1 of 319 (489603)
11-28-2008 2:46 PM


I have come to realise that a major argument against the idea of an intelligent creation, is the fact that there is evidence that the world is very much older than 6000 years.
It has been explained to me however that there are common misconceptions to what the first chapter of Genesis actually means, when you look at the hebrew translations of the words, and what they really mean, the first two verses actually read that "In the beginning God created the heavens and the Earth" then vs2 "The Earth became without form or void". The key aspect of this is the word "became", this actually show that there was a period of time, maybe millions of years, between vs 1 and 2, where the Earth became desolate. And therefore the "creation" described was actually a recreation or a renewal of the face of the Earth.
Id just like to know what you think of this argument, that seems to explain the age of the Earth, and the idea that there were dinosaurs etc.

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Integral
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Message 6 of 319 (489627)
11-28-2008 6:33 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Granny Magda
11-28-2008 5:43 PM


Re: Post Hoc Rationalisation
hi,
yes it does seem a bit of a stretch, but when you think about it if there wasnt a time gap, it wouldn't make sense, literally. God created everything verse 1, it wouldn't instantaneously become desolate, without form and void. And it says in Isaiah 45 also that whatever God creates is good and perfect, so the verse 1 creation we must assume would not have been desolate.
The first day reference could simply mean the literal first day of the "new world" that God was reestablishing.
And the mystery of the gap leads therefore to a completely new topic, and just how did the first creation become desolate, covered with sea and having no atmosphere?
The Bible also tells us that before this recreation, there were angels that had already been created, and also Satan who "fell from grace". The theory has been explained to me that the earth was orignally entrusted to angels lead by Lucifer, who then turned against God creating a war where the Earth was destroyed, became without form or void. Satan is then cast down to Earth and is there during the recreation, and manifests himself as the serpent that appears to Eve.
This is all pretty farfetched stuff, but is all backed up by scripture. Not something i could imagine a middle eastern man 4000 years ago could make up...

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