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MrHambre
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Message 42 of 56 (48088)
07-30-2003 6:05 PM
Reply to: Message 39 by Warren
07-30-2003 5:17 PM


More Nonsense
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Without Behe, for example, many would probably still think that classic evidence of random mutation & natural selection allows us to think the bacterial flagellum evolved by the same mechanism.
Oh yes, of course, Behe has contributed so much to our contemporary concept of scientific inquiry. He has demonstrated quite convincingly that mousetraps don't evolve. Apart from that decisive victory, we see nothing whatsoever.
Welcome back, Warren. Ready to post a hypothesis here: EvC Forum: The Hypothesis of ID ..... ??????or are you just going to play the IDC shell game one more time?
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MrHambre
Member (Idle past 1423 days)
Posts: 1495
From: Framingham, MA, USA
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Message 49 of 56 (48333)
08-01-2003 12:49 PM
Reply to: Message 39 by Warren
07-30-2003 5:17 PM


Incredulity? Don't You Believe It!
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Despite all the expressed incredulity that is so common among Behe's critics, he has indeed contributed to science by forcing scientists like Thornhill & Ussery to classify routes of evolution thus showing that 50% of the possible routes can't generate IC machines.
According to you, then, we Darwinists are guilty of incredulity. A material mechanism is capable of creating design in nature, and you admit that half the possible routes to IC systems are accessible to this mechanism. What is the basis for believing that a mechanism like Intelligent Design, that can only be inferred and has never created a natural organism or structure, is a better explanation for the origin of natural IC systems?
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But the two evolutionary pathways that Thornhill & Ussery describe as capable of producing IC systems amount to nothing more than chance, luck, coincidence etc. One of these is co-option.
I don't care what Mike Gene says, you're wrong here. You have been informed repeatedly that co-option is what turned reptilian jawbones into essential parts of the mammalian middle ear. This process is Darwinism plain and simple, and has absolutely nothing to do with coincidence.
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