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Message 7 of 124 (480253)
09-01-2008 8:13 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Artemis Entreri
09-01-2008 10:00 AM


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we need to define it into law so that we can move on in the 21st century
Why?

Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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Message 15 of 124 (480849)
09-06-2008 11:03 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by Hyroglyphx
09-06-2008 6:38 PM


Re: Getting on with the 21st century
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Anyhow, since the Constitution doesn't mention marriage whatsoever, the Federal government should have no say in what the people of each state want to vote for democratically. I therefore think that each state, being both unified and independent, should have the right to a democratic vote.
So does that mean that you think states should have the right to ban interracial marriages?

Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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Message 17 of 124 (480870)
09-07-2008 10:52 AM
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09-07-2008 10:49 AM


Re: Getting on with the 21st century
No, what I really want is for everyone to understand that the Constitution prohibits states and the federal government from making certain types of distinctions based on gender. But that's probably off topic for this thread.

Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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Message 44 of 124 (483284)
09-21-2008 12:15 PM
Reply to: Message 43 by LudoRephaim
09-21-2008 11:48 AM


Re: Only a in-the-closet- conservative would...
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My bad on not explaining well; HOMOSEXUALITY, i.e. HOMOSEXUAL ACTS (ie having sex with someone of same gender) is on par with the sins mentioned:
Thou shalt not murder, steal, Lie, Worship other gods, commit idolatry, break the sabbath, covet thy neighbor's belongings and wife(s), adultery, take God's name in vain, dishonor your parents (Exodus 20:1-17)
Very curious then, isn't it, that the ten commandments don't say anything about homosexuality? If it's on par with those things, it oughta be in the same tablets as those things, don'tcha think? In fact, at least as far as you mention, it's not even in the same book.
You say the bible calls it an "abomination" and "disgusting."
What does it mean when the bible says "abomination?" Please cite authorities to support your conclusion.
As far as the "disgusting" part is concerned, I kind of agree. I don't like to see that stuff. So what? There are a lot of things that are considerably more "disgusting," including bigotry.

Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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Message 50 of 124 (483813)
09-24-2008 11:10 AM
Reply to: Message 46 by LudoRephaim
09-23-2008 12:58 PM


Re: Only a in-the-closet- conservative would...
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If you break one part of the law (ie Moral Law (see the whole book of Galatians, Matthew 5:17-20, 22:34-40, Mark 7:14-23, Acts chapter 15, Romans 13:8-14), you break ALL of it (James 2:10-12).
Splendid.
Now, let's combine that little bit of nonsense with this one:
And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Matthew 7:3.
Now, taken together, these two passages seem to say to me that, unless you are perfect yourself, you need to STFU, biblically speaking.
As far as "Stupid White Men interpreting the Bible" goes, I'll acknowledge you as the authority on that one. Particularly since you seem so intent on insisting on one particular interpretation of a passage without apparently giving a care what the words actually mean. Most curious.

Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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