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Patterns and Tautologies (The Circular Logic of Homologies)

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Brian
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Message 28 of 67 (477030)
07-29-2008 3:12 PM 		Reply to: Message 27 by Binary
07-29-2008 3:01 PM

Re: Omphalism yet again.
The obvious question is why God would purposely give us evidence in blatant contradiction to His word if He didn't desire us to believe in evolution.
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You are assuming that God gave us the evidence. God didn't give us evidence in blatant contradiction to His word, the Father of Lies has left this evidence to lead man away from God, and it is working.
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If the Bible is so far off base with the origin of life then why trust it on anything?
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Why trust a book whose very first words are untrue?
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Brian
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Message 30 of 67 (477082)
07-30-2008 3:30 AM 		Reply to: Message 29 by Binary
07-29-2008 3:39 PM

Re: Omphalism yet again.
If I say that "the Bible is infallible and any facts which contradict it must not be true," I'm using circular reasoning--this isn't acceptable for rational people. Which is why I can't think like that anymore.
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You do also know that circular reasoning also applies to Jesus as Messiah, LORD and Saviour?
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Brian
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07-30-2008 10:28 AM 		Reply to: Message 31 by Binary
07-30-2008 8:38 AM

high degree
Not 99.99% then?
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I would argue that 100% of 'prophecies' that were 'fulfilled' by Jesus are circular.
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Evidence for birth = 100% circular.
Evidence for ministry = 100% circular.
Evidence for arrest = 100% circular.
Evidence for trial = 100% circular.
Evidence for death = 100% circular.
Evidence for Resurrection = 100% circular.
Evidence for post resurrection appearances = 100% circuluar.
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Doesn't leave a lot does it?
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Is there anything contemporary from outside of the Bible concerning the Jesus of the Gospels?
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Brian
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07-30-2008 11:17 AM 		Reply to: Message 34 by Binary
07-30-2008 11:04 AM

Re: high degree
BTW, isn't this off topic?
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Probably
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Usually the admins allow 1 or 2 off topic posts if it doesn't drag the entire thread off.
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If you would like to discuss the circular reasoning required ot believe that Jesus was the Messiah, and is the Lord and Saviour of all who believe in Him, let me know and I'll propose a thread.
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Cheers
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