|
Register | Sign In |
|
QuickSearch
Thread ▼ Details |
|
Thread Info
|
|
|
Author | Topic: Does the evidence support the Flood? (attn: DwarfishSquints) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.7 |
Rahvin writes: Both of those conditions are false, and so we have evidence in direct contradiction of the Flood myth. Equivocation about comparisons to a flash flood are irrelevant. Then why mention the flash flooding in the mid-west then. My main question has always been where did all this sediment come from you always keep mentioning. If there was very little eroding because the water came from everywhere there would be no big thick layer of sediment. The fish would have had a field day with all the dead carcuses. I do not see the fish kill as you do because the flood was caused by fresh water. There are places today that there is fresh water and salt water in the oceans. We also have fresh water fish surviving in salt water and salt water fish surviving in fresh water. I have caught fresh water largemouth bass a mile offshore in the Gulf of Mexico. I have also caught salt water fish 4 miles upriver from the Gulf. God Bless, "John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.7 |
Rahvin writes: I also note that you are compeltely ignoring the main point - that of tools always being found above the fossilized remains of creatures like dinosaurs and others that science accepts as predating humanity, but the Bible requires to have been killed in the flood. Why are metal tools found above biological remains that are far less dense, and should have been able to swim? Why is there no global layer of sediment consistent with a global flood?
When are you going to stop putting me in the YEC group? I got no problems with all kind of things on top of dinosaurs. I don't have dinosaurs destroyed by the flood. I don't see the need of a layer of sediment showing a global flood. I know the power of water. I lived in Niagara Falls NY for 2 years and listened to the water going over the falls every night as I went to sleep. I was there when prospect point went sailing into the gorge.
Rahvin writes: The flooding in the midwest is in no way a "flash flood." It consists primarily of rivers overflowing their banks - this is completely different from a true flash flood. Quite to the contrary, the midwestern flooding involves for the most part simple rapidly rising water levels in rivers, not the sudden movement of water from higher ground to lower due to oversaturated ground in higher elevations that defines flash flooding. Lets see the rain is coming down faster than the rivers can handle the run off. Since there is room at lower levels then the water moves to the lower level. If the lower levels is low enough the water moving will move anything in its way. I even saw a house take off down river on TV. But if the water was rising at the lower levels leaving no place for the water to run to then there would be no sweeping current to move anything. There would be no sediment layer to amount to anything. What there was would be on top of the surface and would disappear very quickly.
Rahvin writes: This contradicts every single flood ever observed. All floods shift sediment - ever notice on the news how the water is always muddy? That would be sediment being moved along by the water. Exactly how many floods have you ever seen photos of with perfectly clear water, ICANT? Who observed the Biblical flood? No one has ever observed a flood where the oceans were rising faster than the water being rained down on the land. Remember it was also raining on the oceans just as it was on the land. By the time the low area's had all filled (as it had never rained before) the oceans were already meeting them. So please explain how there would be enough erosion to cause a sediment layer to be all over the earth. I could see enough erosion in the higher elevation to cause a small layer but that could not even compare to the layers that is shown by local flooding. I know I have read a lot of YEC stuff that makes a huge thick layer producing our coal and oil. I thought you guys had proved all that garbage did not happen. I think our coal and oil was there billions of years ago. God Bless, "John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.7 |
Rahvin writes: That's good, but you also believe in a magic flood of pure water that doesn't carry any sediment, leaves no fossil evidence of its passing despite killing billions of living things in a very short timespan, and somehow restructures the face of teh Earth (referring to your "if there were even mountains" comment earlier) in ways completely inconsistent with observed floods. Why would I have a problem with that type of flood. I believe the universe was created in one day. We won't get into my views on the mountians or the elevations of the land of the topology of the earth at the time of the flood. Back to rising water. In the Bay of Fundy the water rises and and falls 50 feet every 12 hrs and 25 minutes. That causes a lot of erosion. But what if that water that took 6 hours and 12 minutes was followed by another 50' in the next 6 hrs 12 minutes and continued you would gain 200' of water per 24 hrs. In 40 days that would be 8000' of water providing the water was rising everywhere at the same rate. That would mean Atlanta Ga. the city with the highest elevation east of Denver would be under water in 6 days. The water would be rising like the water in your bath tub if the fill was from the bottom of the tub. Don't ask me where all that water could come from. We went over that and I have no problem with a supply but you do. I am just trying to point out that the water could rise without washing the top of the earth away. With the amount of time for the water to subside there would be no rush of the water to wash more away going down. God Bless,One day maybe we can discuss my views concerning the flood. "John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.7 |
Don't belong in Science Thread
Edited by ICANT, : No reason given. "John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.7 |
Coyote writes: Care to address these bits of scientific evidence, which--if not disproved--definitely disprove the idea of a global flood about 4,350 years ago? So since Noah and his sons and their wife's were not related to anyone before the flood is the reason the DNA would be different.But that would mean they had no ancestors and were a new creation. As far as the sedimentation you are looking for it would not exist. As far as the flood being scientific I made the statement, and will make it again. It is a scientific impossibility for it to happen. Just as it is scientifically impossibility to get the universe from an absence of anything. God Bless, Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Fix quote box - there was no "/" in the closer. "John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.7 |
bluescat48 writes: This goes against your own Biblical account: Cat I am sorry you missed the sarcasm there. I was pointing out that if they were related to people before the flood they should be related to people after the flood. God Bless, "John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
|
|
|
Do Nothing Button
Copyright 2001-2023 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved
Version 4.2
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2024