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Author Topic:   Tautology and Natural Selection
mark24
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Message 11 of 130 (46717)
07-21-2003 2:34 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by Syamsu
07-21-2003 2:27 PM


Syamsu,
Uh you are mistaken, heritability of zero is part of the standard definition of Natural Selection, not my redefinition.
I think therein lies the problem. Natural selection invokes fitness, & fitness, biologically speaking, means the relative ability to procreate. Procreation involves heritability, non? Heritability is therefore implicit to natural selection.
If heritability isn't a part of NS, then why experimentally is absolutely vital?
Mark
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mark24
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Message 43 of 130 (47506)
07-26-2003 5:44 AM
Reply to: Message 40 by Peter
07-25-2003 7:14 AM


Peter,
reproductive success doesn't MAKE something fit, it's the
way that we can see the level of that fitness.
Fitness & reproductive success are one & the same, they are equal, neither is measured by the other. I boobed when I said (words to the effect of) fitness is a measure of rs, poor English on my part.
Mark
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