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You can color me "not impressed".
A lot of the attacks against the movie are a little overboard. I don't remember the movie explicitly saying that evolution caused Nazism. All the movie did was try to attack Darwinism in the light that the Darwinists are snuffing out the competition. They didn't even touch on the fact that the problem Darwinists have with ID is that it is unscientific and shouldn't be considered science. They tried to make it look like the Darwinists were snuffing out the competition for political and moral reasons. Also, there was no positive evidence for ID provided. The movie didn't do anything for me except for lose some credibility for the ID folk. Ben Stein is a funny little smart ass though 
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Is that what you are afraid of? Of course that is not what would happen. Actually, I suspect this really boils down to what was stated in the Declaration of Independence. It goes something like this, "We are endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights including life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." So if science can eliminate "our creator", who is left to grant US citizens those rights?  Uhhh...The Constitution!? The Declaration of Independence grants no rights.
I suspect science is hiding some things that I don't know about and that could be why scientists get expelled for advocating certain theories. I don't just buy that it isn't science. Otherwise, they would be attempting to refute it at face value rather than expelling people. What are they afraid of? There's no big conspiracy is science. They are simply afraid of people being deluded into thinking that non-science (ID) is actually science.
ID arrives to the conclusion because other natural causeations continue to fail to explain some things such as IC structures and CSI. Actually they only attack evolution's claims and don't follow the evidence where it leads and that they are simply trying to support a preconceived notion. Ergo, they are not doing science.
Prove to me that ID cannot follow scientific methods. Its not that they cannot, it that they do not.
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Is that what you are afraid of? Of course that is not what would happen. Actually, I suspect this really boils down to what was stated in the Declaration of Independence. It goes something like this, "We are endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights including life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." So if science can eliminate "our creator", who is left to grant US citizens those rights?
Uhhh...The Constitution!? The Declaration of Independence grants no rights. The Declaration was a letter to and about King George of England. Since it was a declaration of independence, the founders went on to write the Constitution. So what? What does that have to do with removing the creator having nothing to do with us being granted rights?
"You don't need God anymore, you have us Democrats." (Nancy Pelosi, 2006) I'm no Democrat.
Of all things you chose to attack that idea and my idea came from speculation. Huh? What are you referring to? I'm lost. Quoting helps.
I think your opinions are clear. We agree to disagree so there is no point in any further debate on those issues. Its not that we agree to disagree, its that I've shown that you are wrong and you haven't shown otherwise.
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