Really? Did he say why?
"Not a good place for me" = outrage.
I really had no plans on posting there with any frequency. First of all, Jar's bias in labelling anything that he rejects as "mythos" tells objective persons that he is an intolerant crusading Atheist.
And I have defended Jar, so there is no bias:
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EvC Forum, to their credit, describes and treats the Biblical Forums with respect and objectivity.
The Internet as a whole isn't censored, and it's very important that it isn't, but individual website owners with discussion forums have the right to ban anyone they want to.
Tell me something that I do not already know. I have supported Admin:
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Percy has the right here, but when he bans someone, he knows very well that he is not censoring their opinions from being expressed on the Internet at all.
When a evolutionist or a creationist bans the other, it is censorship. But the banishment, almost always, is justified by something that is not true. There are exceptions, for example: I think Randman has now been banned (as opposed to suspension). I think he was banned for violating a certain rule repeatedly. Recently, evolutionists have been banned for violating rules repeatedly. In this context there is no censorship, which is very rare.
BUT, Randman should not be banned indefinetly. It should be a suspension because he is a creationist and Percy a evolutionist. This eliminates the appearance that he is being censored when in fact someone could say it was because of anger and bias.
It is a big place.
Not for quality high traffic creation-evolution debate.
Look at yourself. You have 3266 posts on this website as I'm writing, and anyone in the world who can understand English is free to read your opinions. That's probably about three books' worth of opinions. And it's likely you've posted thousands more elsewhere. So why this whining about censorship?
Also, there's nothing to stop you from having your own website with a discussion forum. You can do exactly what Percy and Jar have done, and you would have the right to shape it to be the kind of place that hosts the kind of discussions you're interested in.
A defense of Jar's censorship, that is, the censorship of a creationist by a evolutionist.
You could ban Jar if he turned up, and I'm sure you'd ban me
I wouldn't ban anyone except egregious trolls and off-topic spammers.
Anytime a creationist bans a evolutionist everyone knows it is due to the inability to refute (and vice-versa).
I agree with you that this is one of the best boards dealing with EvC and related issues.
Yeah, its number two in my opinion. But the Talk Origins Usenet is better. The population here does not want to talk about the contradictions of TEism or anything to do with Materialism. When I do bring these things up I can tell that no one here has an answer and that they are mad at me for bringing it up.
At Talk Origins there are no moderators. I shove these uncomfortable things in their face and they pride themselves with being able to answer and explain every creationist argument and to NOT run away. It would do EvC Forum good to see how the Talk Origin evolutionists answer me concerning these things.
Since there are are only two good places on the Net with high traffic, when anyone is banned it is censorship except for the exceptions mentioned.
Ray