Is bicamerality bullshit?

As per the definition of concious it is real; it exists and is operative in intelligent life and perhaps may be bicameral.Some of us have had experiences which would be considered metaphysical. We can't prove that, but we know it from experience. One must be connected with the metaphysical; i.e. on line so to speak via a connection or medium. As I understand the word, bicameral, we would consider ourselves to have a bicameral conciousness.Merriam Webster Definition Of Concious: Conscious Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

According to Merriam Webster the definition of bicameral is two legislative chambers, (i.e. as I understand that, two operative avenues of concious determination.)Examples as I understand this would be the two conciously operative legislative chambers of our government or the physical and metaphysical realms of existence as some of us Biblical creationists claim to be conciously operative.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

If bicamerality=schizophrenia by reason of praying to God expecting to get answers, 95% of the founders and signers of the Constitution were dillusional schizophenics as were a good percentage of our presidents and congressmen over the centuries.So the world's most blessed nation got that way by efforts of dillusionals and schizophrenics. Do you believe that?

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

I've been doing some research on the two chambers of what appears to be the bicameral frontal lobes of the left and right brain hemispheres.As I read about these chambers Jayne's theory seems to make a little more sense, given the properties of the left and right hemispheres.Humankind throughout recorded history appears to have been for the most part religious. According to most religions there is a metaphysical unseen dimension of existence which is capable of manipulating the human brain in one fashion or another. For example, the NT teaches a "born from above" experience known as being "born again" or being born of the the Holy Spirit of the Biblical god Jehovah and of his christ/messiah Jesus. This experience allegedly renews the mind and renders a person "a new creature" as the apostle Paul describes it. The text goes on to say "...old things are passed away; behold all things are become new." It's in Corinthians some place I believe. I'll edit the text in if I think of it when I have time.According to both the NT and OT, there are unseen evil entities which actually move into one's being (likely right frontal) to manipulate the thinking and actions of the person.If my brief reading of some on Jayne's Theory has been understood it appears that he thinks there was a less advanced stage of the human brain which was more receptive to this metaphysical influence than is experienced today.Am I making any sense here?Below are some links to statements which I see relative to this discussion: http://www.mtsu.edu/~studskl/hd/hemis.html http://www.bizcharts.com/...el_sol/conscious/conscious3.html

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

The problem I see with Jayne's Theory if I understand it that much is that the brain perse has changed. Imo, it's knowledge that has advanced. Modern brain is no more capable than it has ever been in human history.As the prophet Daniel prophesied in Daniel 12:4: 1. Perhaps man's brain has become more concious via knowledge of his environment, the cosmos, etc and how to conciously apply this knowledge.2. The majority of cultures are equally as religious as in the ages of Judiasm and Gentile paganism. The change was effected by the Christian Gentile era.3. I'm not comprehending how linguistics perse is related to Jayne's Theory of the bicameral mind.As the following link applies the computer model to how children learn, it seems to counter Jayne's notion that the brain has undergone a change either neurolinguistly or otherwise. (Perhaps I'm miss-applying Jayne's Theory here.) Page not found – Center for Applied Linguistics

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

Hoot, with all due respect it appears you don't have a clue as to how Christianity works and what has caused the Bible to be the world's all time best seller for scores of decades. Do you even know, Biblically, why the sin offering of God's son Jesus was necessary?One must experience bonafide Biblical Christianity and have the spirit of God, the Holy Spirit permeating the lobes of his brain in order to really experience the "witness of the Holy Spirit that Paul teaches in the epistles and that Jesus spoke of when he said something like that which is of the spirit is spirit and that which is of the flesh is flesh to Nicodemus. Paul also said "....the spirit bears witness with our spirits that we are the children of God." Again it's a memorized text and I can dig it up if you want it.I see this as what one could think of as bicameral, but that doesn't make us mentally deficient. It actually gives us knowledge and insight that the "natural mind" doesn't comprehend. When one receives Christ as saviour and lord, things begin to happen and changes come about as one begins as a "babe" to "desire the sincere milk of the word. God then begins to reveal himself to his new spiritually born child in quite wonderful ways.Your thread is particularly interesting to me because it looks like a lot of this has to do with introduction in the right frontal lobe to be processed by the left lobe. Perhaps this could be considered bicameral which folks like you and Jaynes, having not had the experience, see as abnormal but which we who have experienced see as enlightment of the existence of metaphysical realms of existence around us and in the cosmos, both good and evil.We don't hear voices. We get results from those prayers by which Jehovah God reveals that he is the existing one, i.e. Jehovah (the I am).

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

OK. I never made any claim of knowing or having read the book. I thought I made that clear when I asked a couple of times how I was doing.I see that my terminology was incorrect in that the normal fully developed brain is integrated unicameral and not bicameral, bicameral meaning that the two frontal lobes are not integrated as we know them to be.The logical left lobe is where language, logic, ideas and commands are generated . Jaynes hypothesises that the right brain lobes of the ancients viewed these ideas and commands etc as coming from the gods.Is that correct or does he actually take the position that the thecorpus collosum connection between the left and right lobes was not yet developed?

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.