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ThreeDogs Member (Idle past 5881 days) Posts: 77 From: noli me calcare Joined: |
http://defamer.com/...eo-scientologists-dont-want-you-to-see
Even tho you may think you have seen and heard everything, you won't believe your ears or eyes. This is sheer lunacy. Put it anywhere, really.
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Adminnemooseus Administrator Posts: 3976 Joined: |
What are your opinions on the matter? Give a text starting point for the discussion.
I'm not going to promote a bare link to a video, to become a new topic. Adminnemooseus New Members should start HERE to get an understanding of what makes great posts. Comments on moderation procedures (or wish to respond to admin messages)? - Go to:
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ThreeDogs Member (Idle past 5881 days) Posts: 77 From: noli me calcare Joined: |
Hi, MinneMoose
The video speaks for itself better than I ever could. However, by now, I'm certain, most have seen the lunacy of this man making like a nazi showing the colors of scientology. Promote it, don't promote it, it's fine with me. I'm easy to please. Those who have seen the video here and wish to comment, can ask you to release it into traffic if they wish to do so.
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Admin Director Posts: 13046 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 2.7 |
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
All I see are semi-coherent ramblings.
I'm not sure what's all the fuss.
However, by now, I'm certain, most have seen the lunacy of this man making like a nazi showing the colors of scientology.
I must have missed the "making like a nazi" part. Can somebody explain it to me? Let's end the political smears
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CK Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
I don't get the big deal either. A religious person thinks that his particular brand of faith holds the answers - well don't they all ?
I think it slightly odd how people who believe in a God coming to earth to be nailed to a plank of wood and can be fought off with iron chariots find anything to mock. From the outside looking in, those are all equally odd things.
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Do you have a problem with someone saying we need to try to fix things?
Do you have a problem with someone saying we help those in need? What is it about the video that bothers you, loving others as you love yourself? Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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CK Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
Indeed, if you get past the slightly odd grin, what does Tom seem to be saying?
That too many people are standing by and not taking action to change things, that too many people are overly negative and surrounding yourself with negative people is liking to make you feel negative etc etc.
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Quetzal Member (Idle past 5902 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
Hi Dogs3,
I watched about half of the video (my tolerance for Cruisian rambling monologues is about 4 minutes, tops). I don't get the issue you have with it. I'll freely admit Scientology is a load of horse bollocks, but I think that about most religions anyway. Was there something specific in the video you felt was more than the usual hollywood lunacy and/or Tomcruisian self-serving egocentric codswollop? The only question I have beyond that is, "Does one have to be a grade-C science fiction writer to start one's own religion, or can anyone do it?"
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Percy Member Posts: 22506 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
I'm just stunned at his ability to talk for 9 minutes without saying anything. He praised himself continually for his activism without once mentioning anything he ever actually did. Maybe he was thinking of things like taking legal action against South Park.
--Percy
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ThreeDogs Member (Idle past 5881 days) Posts: 77 From: noli me calcare Joined: |
for your contributions, please keep them coming. Appreciated.
Percy, narcissism is necessary in his field, which most in that field carry with aplomb, never too heavy. Thanks for your observation.
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
I think what I see with Cruise is the astonishing pride he has for himself. I'm not sure if I've seen anyone with a more self-congratulatory spirit about them.
That said, we all run the risk of this by forgetting one other critical virtue that we sometimes forget while trying to maintain the others -- humility. To the other readers saying, big deal, what is the difference between his religion and other religions: Your point is well taken, however, there seems to be one critical aspect missing. Most religions point away from the self and look to something else in which to improve the self. Cruise and Scientology looks at the self as if it is the answer for all of the major questions of life. “There is something which unites magic and applied science while separating both from the 'wisdom' of earlier ages. For the wise men of old the cardinal problem had been how to conform the soul to objective reality, and the solution had been knowledge, self-discipline, and virtue. For magic and applied science alike the problem is how to subdue reality to the wishes of men: the solution is a technique; and both, in the practice of this technique, are ready to do things hitherto regarded as disgusting and impious" -C.S. Lewis
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teen4christ Member (Idle past 5829 days) Posts: 238 Joined: |
I agree with Percy. I just saw that video. I couldn't tell what he was talking about except how great he was.
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Percy Member Posts: 22506 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
One thing I know for sure, if I'm in an automobile accident, please, PLEASE, *PLEASE* don't let Tom Cruise be driving by.
--Percy
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CK Member (Idle past 4158 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
quote: So what? The practical outcome is the same,someone saying "my religion is the one with the answers". Edited by CK, : No reason given.
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