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Author Topic:   How can you identify the word of God without critical assessment of God?
tesla
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Message 2 of 41 (445965)
01-04-2008 3:20 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by sinequanon
01-04-2008 3:12 PM


how i do it
my belief: john 1:1
"in the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word and God were one"
by this question: how do you speak without a mouth?
i arrived to this conclusion: God is energy and the word is its consciousness. similarly, does man have a body and a consciousness, but without both of them, a man is not a man, but either a dead man, or a man who is alive and has both.
therefore, it is not a blasphemy to question the documents of man, professing to be the "word" without proof. no evidence has been shown that was written by God accept the universe, and the language of the universe isn't fully understood. to talk to God, you must first learn his language.
this is my opinion, and not a definite statement concerning what another may choose or not choose to believe.

keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
~parmenides

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tesla
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Message 4 of 41 (445973)
01-04-2008 3:50 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by arachnophilia
01-04-2008 3:37 PM


Re: perhaps a more familiar example?
if Joe blow went out and ate "magic mushrooms" then Joe blow writes his revelation on God, and then Joe blow disappears so you cant talk to him, the choice whether or not you want to believe the material is up to the reader.

keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
~parmenides

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tesla
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Message 7 of 41 (445978)
01-04-2008 3:57 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by sinequanon
01-04-2008 3:51 PM


Re: how i do it
Is this your belief because it is stated in the Bible? Or is it a coincidence that your belief is in the Bible?
its my belief because it makes sense in the laws of the universe as i have interpreted them by observations of what is "real"
Edited by tesla, : spelling

keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
~parmenides

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tesla
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Message 8 of 41 (445981)
01-04-2008 4:01 PM
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01-04-2008 3:55 PM


Re: perhaps a more familiar example?
well, yes, of course. i think what we're getting at is how people come to their conclusions on what to believe in, and what not to believe in.
exactly. its only by choice that anyone believes anything.

keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
~parmenides

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tesla
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Message 10 of 41 (445996)
01-04-2008 4:17 PM
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01-04-2008 4:11 PM


Re: perhaps a more familiar example?
But choice can be random, educated, inspired etc.
of course. but you cannot convince anyone that what your evaluation of what is real, is real, without proof. you can only provide evidence and hope they connect the dots.

keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
~parmenides

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tesla
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Message 12 of 41 (446025)
01-04-2008 5:15 PM
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01-04-2008 5:06 PM


Re: perhaps a more familiar example?
not to join the pile on, but your response is tautological. of course it's by choice -- we're asking how those choices are made. what process is used? what factors are taken into account, if any?
its entirely dependant on the psychology of the individual. a schizophrenic would perceive reality much differently than a scientist.
you could find in psychology that there are similarities on how the thinking process works on most individuals. but it is still an independent process to each person. with many different factors that decide the outcome of how a person thinks, by what has affected them in their lives.
the way a person views life is validated by the individual over time, and once a person has a long established point of viewing, it is very difficult for the mind to rationalize any other viewing perspective.

keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
~parmenides

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