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Legend
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Message 3 of 47 (431900)
11-02-2007 7:26 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by RAZD
11-02-2007 7:00 PM


Self-righteous morality.
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Is speeding -- driving faster than the legal limit -- immoral?
First of, 'speeding' simply means 'moving fast'. It's only in our age of Newspeak that it came to mean 'driving faster than the legal limit'.
Second, something that doesn't cause -or has little potential to cause- harm to self/others cannot and shouldn't be deemed as immoral. So, driving at an appropriate speed for the road, albeit over the speed limit, isn't and shouldn't be wrong. Driving dangerously/drunk/doped, even at below the speed limit, is wrong.
Third, the speed limit varies according to region, current government and level of political-correctness. so, if it was immoral that would mean that morality is defined by laws and politicians.
Speed limits have nothing to do with morality and everything to do with self-righteousness, hypocricy and social conditioning.
'Nuff said.

"In life, you have to face that some days you'll be the bug and some days you'll be the windscreen."

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Legend
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Message 7 of 47 (431960)
11-03-2007 4:12 AM
Reply to: Message 6 by RAZD
11-02-2007 8:39 PM


Re: Self-righteous morality.
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Here I disagree -- roads, even highways, are designed based on a certain speed (usually 10 mph over the posted speed limit IIRC) based on the physics of moving vehicles, so if nothing else they are indicators of the speed capacity of the road.
Not in this country, mate. Here, they're indicators of the mentality of the decision-making oligarchy.
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The laws about penalties for speeding is a different matter. Are you saying it is immoral to have such laws?
Not at all. I'm all for speeding laws which enforce a safe limit for the road. I'm strongly opposed to speeding laws which enforce a few people's self-righteousness and guilt-syndromes.
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Do they harm those charged with speeding?
considering that driving four times at a few miles over the speed limit will see you lose your license and, by extension for most of us, our job, mortgage, career, family, etc, I'd say that yes they do harm people.
Now, inflicting this harm on someone who knowingly endangers other people's lives is one thing. Inflicting this on someone who only drives a few miles above the ridiculously slow speed limit on their way to work is an act of oppression of the innocent. Call it immoral, if you like, I prefer to call it for what it is: ideological persecution by a totalitarian state.

"In life, you have to face that some days you'll be the bug and some days you'll be the windscreen."

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Legend
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Message 39 of 47 (432992)
11-09-2007 1:27 PM
Reply to: Message 33 by ikabod
11-08-2007 7:21 AM


where's my brown shirt?
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simple because ownership of a modern car is immoral .
yes, damn those immoral car owners to hell!
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most of the features on modern cars are there to pamper our glutony and greed , and do not make the car a better A to B transporter ie cd/mp player , electric mirrors , heated seats ,
Bring back horse-drawn carriages I say!
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Cars are designed to make people jealous and greed to own them , they corrupt us to waste our wealth on unneed machines .
I say we build a big bonfire and throw all cars in it!
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speeding , in any form is just compounding the immorality by being even more wastefull.
naturally, what could possibly be worse than wasteful immorality ?
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OR maybe cars are not the work of the evil one ...and im just ranting ,
no, not at all. I, too, think that the chief designer at Toyota is Beelzebub himself. And don't get me started on General Motors!
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PS sorry to all pertolheads who cant live without there cars ..you sad sad bunnies
hey, here's an idea: let's go out one night and attack cars and car-owners. We could beat them up, put flaming rags through their letterboxes, smash their windows up and paint big 'C's on their walls. We could call it 'KrystalCarNacht' or something similar. What do you say ?

"In life, you have to face that some days you'll be the bug and some days you'll be the windscreen."

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Legend
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Message 41 of 47 (433017)
11-09-2007 3:11 PM
Reply to: Message 40 by crashfrog
11-09-2007 1:46 PM


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I don't think anybody who's never lived in Minnesota is in a position to judge the necessity of heated seats, I'm sorry.
so you're saying that just because it's -50 in the mornings you need to place your arse on a heated seat? My God, your immorality knows no bounds! I hope you enjoy your warm seat, just know that it will be much warmer IN HELL!
ikabod, back me up on this mate.

"In life, you have to face that some days you'll be the bug and some days you'll be the windscreen."

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Legend
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Message 45 of 47 (433029)
11-09-2007 3:47 PM
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11-09-2007 3:19 PM


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What I find really comfortable are the seat warmers that work by burning endangered species alive.
I hear that pandas burn the slowest while also producing low CO2 emissions. You can have a warm arse AND the comforting knowledge that you're not depleting the ozone layer.

"In life, you have to face that some days you'll be the bug and some days you'll be the windscreen."

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Legend
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Message 47 of 47 (433041)
11-09-2007 5:22 PM
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11-09-2007 3:59 PM


you have peregrine falcons? they're just sooo hard to find! Last month, while visiting California, I couldn't see any. I had to set fire to the forest to flush them out, before shooting them dead.

"In life, you have to face that some days you'll be the bug and some days you'll be the windscreen."

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