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Entropy and the immutable law of death

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Damouse

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Message 32 of 83 (427558)
10-11-2007 11:34 PM

Reply to: Message 14 by Dr Adequate
09-22-2007 5:52 AM

Re: What are the different kinds of entropy, anyhow?

Dr Adequate writes:

So far as I know, no-one has ever argued that "entropy only corresponds to closed systems", a phrase which doesn't actually mean anything, and which gets no google hits whatsoever.

Im not sure i read this right. If youre saying seriously what you mean in the quotes, then my response is one of shock.

the 2LoT only pertains to closed systems by its own definition, since the universe cannot lose or gain entropy. A biological system is NOT a closed system, for the record, but as far as the law goes...

Thats how its written.

Thats what it means.

*Apologies if im misinterperating your post.*

Edited by Damouse, : No reason given.

This statement is false.

Yeah so i lurk more than i post, thats why my posts are so low for two year's worth of membership. So sue me.

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Damouse

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Message 35 of 83 (428274)
10-15-2007 7:05 PM

Reply to: Message 33 by crashfrog
10-11-2007 11:48 PM

Re: What are the different kinds of entropy, anyhow?

Ahh apologies. ill get to Chem 109 evenntually.

The second law makes specific reference to isolated systems because they're the systems with the least confounding factors; in all such systems that are not already at equilibrium, entropy increases until they are.

The universe can and does gain entropy as heat differentials are exploited to do work, and the entire universe trends inexorably towards equilibrium.

What do you mean by the universe at equilibrium?

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Damouse

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Message 37 of 83 (428300)
10-15-2007 9:46 PM

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10-15-2007 8:14 PM

Re: What are the different kinds of entropy, anyhow?

Is universal equilibrium under an infinite timeframe or a realistic one?

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