If resurrected you displace god rather than become part of God?
Patience please...
No, we become part of God. A stone in the body of Christ. A jewel of the temple so to speak. We don't become God so much as let God become us; an individual, distinct, unique and prescious as each of us is, yet at one with God's will. We get to be the real you and me, instead of the fallen and depraved men we are now.
C.S. Lewis covers it well in his chapter, 'Obstinate Toy Soldiers'.
As to ask the panthiest, maybe you should wait until your thread is promoted before derailing this one.
I don't think any pantheist really wants that debate, and that is interesting. I think it is a hit to them. It was to me... I am satisfied to let it stand there un-opposed and unpromoted. it speaks for itself. It's not my work or my genius. It is the genius that conquered my hard heart and shallow mind.
Phat is trying to keep the peace (he is conflicted), but his Lord did not come to bring peace. His Lord came to expose the darkness for what it is without fear. Even at the risk of being beaten or crucified. And He asks his disciple to be the light of the world even unto persecution and death. And warned us not to befriend those who only work to keep the light from being shined full strength. Oh how they would love to pretend it does not exist. You can preach anything but that! Keep it contained within the scientific method so as not to expose us...
Matthew 10:34 "Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn "'a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law-- 36 a man's enemies will be the members of his own household.'
There can only be one way for man to have peace, and that is assuming that peace is one of the
real purposes of the universe to begin with. We must assume that that is true or we are seeking what cannot be found. Justice, mercy, and faithfulness are either realties or they are not. We can't make them so, if in reality we are only unjust and merciful beasts.
I have never tried to derail any thread. I only try to bring into focus what I think the
real answer to these questions is. When I see Christianity misrepresented as is so common at this forum, I try to explain why it is incorrect. I do the best I can without excuse or apologies. It demands more of me than you can know... All my energy and thought. My whole soul!
I try to be a light as best I can (even if only a dimwit). Everyone is looking for the same thing, but so many are trying to find it by some way that will avoid the moral dimension that Christianity boldy and unyieldingly demands of us. They hope that reality is not Christianty.
Does such a way exist? Can it be true? We sure try desperately to find one; empire after empire. Tower after tower comes tumbling down.
Christ is a glaring light and it will not be put out. The only options are to yeild to it some, and carefully reconsider, or crucify it. But when we crucify it, we draw more attention to it than if we had left it alone. We then become what we hate most. And that is the most common way for God to reveal Himself. We get a glimpse of Him, when we see our own depravity. Our illusions are dispelled very much by force. if it were up to us, we would keep them. But he makes us self aware...
The light has us surrounded. The only alternative is to deny it with full knowledge that we are doing so, and very few can actually do such a thing. I couldn't, and I tried even harder than some of you. Even the most obstinate among us still has some light that he cannot deny.
I can live with being challenged severely, threatened, and mocked. I can defend myself with God' word. I can even handle being suspended or expelled from this place.
The question is, can you?
I fear not examining myself and my beliefs. And in the process of defending them, I naturally explain my position and show it to be true. Is that preaching or apologetics?
And if I am thrown out into the abyss, there are thousands more waiting to remind you of your sins. Reality will stalk you, and call your bluff!
Luke 12:4 "I tell you, my friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body and after that can do no more. 5 But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear him who, after the killing of the body, has power to throw you into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him. 6 Are not five sparrows sold for two pennies? Yet not one of them is forgotten by God. 7 Indeed, the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Don't be afraid; you are worth more than many sparrows. 8 "I tell you, whoever acknowledges me before men, the Son of Man will also acknowledge him before the angels of God. 9 But he who disowns me before men will be disowned before the angels of God. 10 And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven. 11 "When you are brought before synagogues, rulers and authorities, do not worry about how you will defend yourselves or what you will say, 12 for the Holy Spirit will teach you at that time what you should say."
Matthew 10:26 "So do not be afraid of them. There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden that will not be made known.
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