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Faith 
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Message 139 of 297 (351734)
09-24-2006 4:09 AM
Reply to: Message 138 by kuresu
09-24-2006 2:11 AM


Re: The best cheap deal
Thank you, that was quite helpful. I don't know why I couldn't figure out about gigabytes. I even looked it up but the information wouldn't take. I couldn't figure that the 1024 RAM was MB and that means 1 GB, which is what Ohnai was saying to be sure to get. I think I need it the way I keep programs open all the time.
Thanks for the info about the best way to use the thumb drive. I'd pretty much decided I had to have that. I hope my computer lasts long enough to pull all this off. It's been doing amazingly well today considering how bad it's been lately.
You are right about the panel screen. I don't even like them.
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Message 143 of 297 (351879)
09-24-2006 6:32 PM
Reply to: Message 140 by MangyTiger
09-24-2006 11:03 AM


Re: Get a copy of SP2 as well
I would guess that given the age of your XP CDs they don't include Service Pack 2 (SP2).
You really need SP2 on your machine - it is quite vunerable to attack without it. I know somebody who reinstalled Windows and in the time it took them to download SP2 from the Microsoft site and install it their PC was infected.
You mean virus attack I suppose. I've been making do with AVG and Ad-Aware freebies I downloaded from the web. What about SP2 that comes with a new computer with Windows XP already on it? Then if I load my old CDs (I probably wouldn't have to install the Windows program on a new machine, but most likely the Office XP program) the protection will already be there. No?

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Message 144 of 297 (351882)
09-24-2006 6:36 PM
Reply to: Message 142 by crashfrog
09-24-2006 6:02 PM


Re: ATA support on new mobo's
What if I like the sound of a computer that has a SATA hard drive? What is the problem again for my purposes?

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Message 147 of 297 (351926)
09-24-2006 10:33 PM
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09-24-2006 10:29 PM


Re: ATA support on new mobo's
I get it, thanks. Yes, I think the best solution is to get a new system, and SATA is everywhere. I still don't get what it is, I just want to be sure it's OK to get.

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Message 150 of 297 (351954)
09-25-2006 12:17 AM
Reply to: Message 149 by crashfrog
09-24-2006 11:47 PM


thumb drive question
Thank you. Lots to munch on there.
One more question.
If I can't get this right away and have to nurse this old machine along for a while (or if it crashes I can borrow a functional computer a friend is willing to lend me for a while), I should probably get that thumb drive thing NOW and start backing up my stuff to that instead of these Zip disks before the system completely goes. Right?
In that case I need to find out if I have the right port in this computer for the thumb drive. I'm not sure what it looks like. And although I could probably find out online I'm avoiding going anywhere on the web except Google and EvC because it pretty predictably causes a freezeup.
Would you -- or somebody -- please describe it or put up a picture?
Thanks.
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Message 152 of 297 (351968)
09-25-2006 1:10 AM
Reply to: Message 151 by NosyNed
09-25-2006 12:34 AM


Re: USB port
OK, I guess it's that dark rectangular space right next to the mouse plug in, about those dimensions. Thanks.

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Message 158 of 297 (351979)
09-25-2006 1:52 AM
Reply to: Message 154 by AnswersInGenitals
09-25-2006 1:12 AM


Re: thumb drive question
No, I don't need much space at all on the thumb. I've only saved 300MB of the stuff I really need. I don't care if I lose the rest.
I'm not worried about a new system, just the possibility of having to install stuff in the CPU or otherwise figure out how to get this old computer working. A new system should be a piece o cake by comparison.
If I can just plug in this thumb drive and have it show up in my list of places to send files to, I can do that sort of thing fine. I've played with a lot of computers over the years, I even used to fiddle with DOS commands. I can hardly believe it, don't remember a thing about it any more. Now I just don't have the patience to learn the multiple menus and functions. Never learned much about how the parts work and got more and more wearied by all the new features that are so interesting to others, just too much information, too many menus, too much to have to think about for me. I learn a new feature about once a year or so.

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Message 159 of 297 (351986)
09-25-2006 2:05 AM
Reply to: Message 157 by crashfrog
09-25-2006 1:31 AM


Re: USB port
Remind me what you use the ZIP disks for? Basic backup? Or you need to copy files between two computers? I think people are suggesting things without being totally clear on what your requirements are in the first place.
All I have for backup in case this system crashes, which seems imminent, is Zip disks, and I've been backing up to them for a week or so now, but just the most important stuff because I only have three 100MB disks. No problem, I can lose the rest, though if I don't have to I won't.
But I only have the Zip disks; I don't have a CD burner or anything else. Computers that friends have don't have Zip drives. New computers don't have Zip drives.
I need something to get the files from this old computer into a new computer, which I can't get yet, but may in the nearish future. The easiest way to do it seems to be to get a thumb drive NOW before this system crashes and save things to it instead of to the Zip disks, so when I get the new system I'll have it in the right form to plug into it. Even if I have to borrow a computer it will be necessary, to get my files into it.
Maybe a cheap CD drive would do as well.
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Message 160 of 297 (351988)
09-25-2006 2:11 AM
Reply to: Message 153 by kuresu
09-25-2006 1:11 AM


Re: thumb drive question
Ooo, great picture, THAT takes care of my doubts about what it is. Yes I have that, one side-by-side set. Thank you very much. And Dr. Jones too.
I LOVE this thread.
Such a relief from beating each other up about evolution.
Not that it will last long.
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Message 163 of 297 (352234)
09-25-2006 6:30 PM
Reply to: Message 161 by crashfrog
09-25-2006 12:44 PM


Re: USB port
I think the thumb drive is going to be your best bet if we're only talking about 300mb of crucial stuff. A 1-gigabyte (1024 mb) thumb drive should be fairly affordable, and I'm sure you'll find uses for them besides file transfer. For instance, my mother-in-law has broadband (internet access that is fast and always on), so as a security measure she keeps her tax information only on a thumb drive and unplugs it when she doesn't need to use it. You can't remotely hack into a drive that isn't plugged in, so her financial information is safe from hackers.
I just talked to someone this morning who has a collection of thumb drives as a library for genealogical research. Sounds like a useful little item.
You know the situation you're in is fairly common - people who need old files to be on their new computer. Any kind of computer repair or service shop, or basically any computer retailer, will be able to transfer your files for some charge. You might want to simply investigate that possibility. They'll probably charge you $40-60 for doing that, I would think.
I don't want to spend that much. Hoping to get a thumb drive or something else VERY cheap at this point. This month I'm very much on the edge. I'm going to be getting help with a new computer otherwise I couldn't do it at all. But I have a new option. Got asked to babysit for a few days for my niece with the geek husband, who said to bring along the computer and he'll clean it up for me. But this won't be until next week. He has all the paraphernalia. Even if the thing crashes he will probably be able to resurrect it.

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Message 165 of 297 (352245)
09-25-2006 7:33 PM
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09-25-2006 6:47 PM


Re: USB port
Sounds like a must-have. What's the problem with removing them?
Also, everything that you store data on eventually corrupts one way or another. CD's get scratches, disks just get bad over time, and so on. What's the wear factor on the thumb drive?

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Message 169 of 297 (352250)
09-25-2006 7:49 PM
Reply to: Message 166 by nwr
09-25-2006 7:41 PM


Re: USB port
Sorry, "wear factor" was a bad choice of words. Mean corruption factor. Life of the thing. Disks corrupt, etc.

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Message 171 of 297 (352256)
09-25-2006 8:13 PM
Reply to: Message 170 by crashfrog
09-25-2006 7:53 PM


magnets
Well two have said avoid magnets, one says not a problem.
I use a cassette tape eraser all the time so it's always near my computer -- it has its own corner away from everything else but it's still possible to make a mistake with it and put smoething else near it. I've printed loud messages on it to keep it away from "watches, recorded tapes, computer hardware and software" (which the packaging says in tiny print) and that would include the XP program disks I said a friend set it down on when helping me move. So the disks could be damaged after all.
It's enclosed in a box but if I put it near paper clips it picks them up through the box so it's pretty strong.
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Message 173 of 297 (352260)
09-25-2006 8:41 PM
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09-25-2006 8:26 PM


Re: magnets (and monitors)
The monitor has been getting dim I think, but the white tone is even on the Word doc, far as I can tell. That's not the problem, though, or the hard disk. The eraser doesn't get that close to either of them.
But it got put down right on top of the XP program disks which I'm going to need when I get a new computer in the nearish future, at least the Office Suite disk which has the Publisher program on it -- that won't come with the new computer and I can't do without it. I wonder if Microsoft would replace the disks if they're damaged? I have the codes for them.

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Message 176 of 297 (352308)
09-26-2006 6:08 AM
Reply to: Message 175 by crashfrog
09-25-2006 9:02 PM


Re: magnets (and monitors)
OK, now I'm convinced. And relieved. Much obliged.

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