Is anyone else fed up with Muslims complaining all the time?

I see no mention of god at all in post #1.

I am an atheist RR, I cannot blame God for anything.The world is a mess, the world will end prematurely, and religion is to blame.The nutty God squads have ruined the planet for us normal people.Brian.

Once again we have a Muslim moaning his ass off.John Reid's speech was interupted by Abu Izzadeen, an animal who praised the 7/7 attacks.Abu is a member of Al-Ghurabaa, a group that is banned in the UK, so why is he running around stirring things up?If Abu isn't happy with life in Britain, then he can feck off to Pakistan or somewhere where his extremism is acceptable.What is wrong with these people?Abu was a Christian, he converts to Islam and turns into a nutcase.Brian.

Do you not get legitimate news stories such as the Canadian who was abducted by the US based on false charges by the RCMP and tortured for a year? He is currently complaining, is Islamic and it seems to make sense.I share your lack of enthusiasm for religious radicals and the idiocy they get up to, I'm just not understanding why they are grabbing more news space than other organized idiocies. Isn't it possible he was already a nutcase, but the Xian crazies didn't have the same level of hatred and persecution complex that the Islamic community would provide him. I mean look at the guaranteed anger he could genuinely receive by saying so many stupid things, in fact some of the same types of things Xians have said with no rebuke.You will remember that some Xians "praised" the 9/11 attacks.

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holmes {in temp decloak from lurker mode}
"What a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away." (D.Bros)

Actually, if you look at the world as a whole and the entire history of the human race, you will see that the atheists like you and I are the abnormal ones. The rest of the world have believed in everything from the worm gods to the alien gods to the non-existant gods.

Is atheism abnormal or just a statistical minority? Not sure if I'd want those two confused.It doesn't surprise me though that the majority of humans have been intellectually lazy.BtW: I saw your reply in the new mod thread. I'll reply here so as not to risk wrath of the gods... I mean admins. Feel free to mock my writing and make suggestions, and I am not kidding. I desire the ability to write clearly to both layman and professionals and am in envy of those who can. Though I may be in complete opposition to some creo's positions, I recognize that a few have extremely clear and lucid writing.I am currently studying Archer, Ben (when he writes), and Omniverous as role models for improvement. I'd add cavediver but some of his physics explanations still go right past me.

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holmes {in temp decloak from lurker mode}
"What a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away." (D.Bros)

The thought that some believe that atheism is on a sort of higher plane of thinking is sickening.Not suggesting I loathe it, just that it doesn't take much thought.Edited by -messenjah of one, : No reason given.

You provided a link to pictures of apparantly innocent or nonaggressive people who had been killed (by US soldiers?).If these deaths were ALL actions of US soldiers on innocent Iraqis, the question would be is it occuring more now than say...in WWII in Europe? I would say that the firebombing of Dredsden(sp?)would give you a good indication of what that answer is going to be.It seems to me that your implication that American soldiers are inordinately aggressive and barbaric is just as much a generalization as the statement to which you are responding. Are you saying their violent reaction is reasonable because the perception that their religion is being attacked and this perception was caused by the deaths of many apparantly innocent individuals in Iraq?Taking that to a logical conclusion...then the apparant violent reaction of American soldiers against "innocent" Iraqis is reasonable because many other innocent Iraqis know where the troublemakers are but won't turn them in. You know, the troublemakers who just killed several Marines with roadside bombs and are known to people in the town/neighborhood.If you excuse irrational violent acts by the ones burning the churches then you must excuse the irrational violent acts by the American soldiers under attack.I don't believe we should excuse either.

Why are my examples not legitimate news stories? I think it is because the incidents are becoming more numerous, plus it is obviously a 'hot topic' at the moment.Remember we are just over a very 'near miss' in the UK, all our airports were at a standstill and we have apparently foiled quite a few other plots by Islamic terrorists in the UK.I know they are a small minority of the muslim population, but they are becoming more prominent evry day.It is a fact that every day there are more news reports of Muslims complaining about this or that. They complain about their standard of life in the UK, they moan that they are picked on by the police to be questioned and searched purely because they are Muslim. What they fail to realise it is because the ONLY terrorist acts in the UK in the near past and the biggest threat to us today is from people claiming to be Muslims. They fit the profile so the police are duty bound to search them. If we had a spate of attacks by say people with ginger hair, then how can people with ginger hair be surprised that they are being stopped by the police?On that matter, shouldnt the peaceful Muslims be more angry at the violent Muslims who are getting Islam a bad name, and not target their anger on the police? Sure it is possible. I don't have enough information to make that call. However, it is not impossible that he converted to Islam, then became a nutter. One of the 7/7 bombers had only been a Muslim for 6 months! Did they?Brian.

Okay, so you obviously aren't the one taking the critical thinking course, so you must be the mini-Hovind one.That you do not think that atheism takes much thought just shows your inability to think.Brian.

Before I answer this question, I must first differentiate the difference between the two.I see the phrase "statistical minority" as describing a situation where a small group of people being born into a situation or household that is not "common" in regard to the great scheme of things. For example, being Jewish can be statistically minority because one does not choose which family to be born into.Abnormality refers more to a radical difference between an individual or group of individuals and the rest. For example, if a Muslim decides to convert to Judaism, he is considered to be abnormal rather than being part of a statistically minority group.I think atheism can be both. If you look at the entire history of civilization, it is very apparent that atheists represent a very tiny fraction of the main bulk. We are a minority group because some of us actually are born into atheist households. But for others, like myself, we are abnormal because we were born into religious households but decided later on to not follow the tradition.I dunno, I'm not sure I agree with what I just said above myself. While many of them have been intellectually lazy, I tend to blame the problem on indoctrination. Just watch this video. It's sad to say that I was one of those children. I was fortunate enough to see through all the bullshit after years of hating. But out of say a thousand children that are literally brainwashed, how many will actually go on to higher education and travel enough to broaden their minds enough to see through all the bullshit? Your writing stinks. Heck, you stink But seriously, go back after you've written something and try to cut out all the fat. It's not that your writing is not good enough. It's that you tend to use like 3 sentences to say what someone like me would say in 1 sentence. I suppose your way might have given you better scores on your papers than mine. But honestly, why try to use the star trek transporter to remove a pound of dirt when you can just use a shovel or your hands?

Muahahahahahahahahaha!

yep--for knocking a blow to this overly materialistic world. you know, toppling the major symbols of wealth and economic power, which is the wrong focus for life while were here.not that it did much other than to slow our economy down.

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Fred Phelps and his ilk don't count.Edited by gasby, : No reason given.

Why on Earth would that be relevant? When a young boy is killed while clutching a white surrender flag, those who care about him don't give a rat's ass whether the folks in Dresden had it worse or not. Either way, they're going to, as the thread puts it, "complain."When a scenario like that is carried out tens of thousands more times, they're going to complain louder. And, astonishingly enough, they're not going to stop to think, "Maybe we should consider how lucky we are that we're not in Dresden, circa 1945." Well, I think that your implication that all Irishmen are made of chocolate is just silly.I know you didn't say anything that even remotely resembled that; it's just more fun to argue it than what you actually posted. And I think it's even more of a generalization than this business about American soldiers. Shame on you. No. I'm saying that the reason they are "complaining" is not because the pope said something asinine. The pope's speech is the sharpened straw that was used to stab the camel's repeatedly broken back.To suggest that some people heard a speech and flipped out is to over-simplify what happened to a ridiculous degree. I don't. But they continue to happen, whether I excuse them or not. So maybe we should be looking at what actually causes them, so we have a better shot at preventing them in the future.