A barrier to macroevolution & objections to it

I detect a shifting of goalposts....Denying on what evidence?Edited by RickJB, : No reason given.

This isn't evidence! It's a REJECTION of evidence. A rejection of evidence does not establish your position by default. The common term for this kind of assumption is "God in the Gaps".Do you or do you not have a counter-hypothesis to mutation that attempts to explain the diversity of life on the the planet and tallies with evidence from other scientific fields?Or do you you just have the Bible?Edited by RickJB, : No reason given.

Indeed it is. Where? We've been waiting for evidence for it for over 100 posts. Edited by RickJB, : No reason given.

- YOU are making the claim that the ToE mutation hypothesis is lacking.- It is YOUR job to produce a counter-hypothesis supported by evidence.This is possibly my sixth or seventh time of asking either you or MJ....Edited by RickJB, : No reason given.

Good luck with that request. I have asked many times and have received a similar response.Edited by RickJB, : No reason given.

Faith, at risk of attracting the anger of the admins I have to say that you are making a mockery of people who choose to post here.You have been asked repeatedly to produce some kind of hypothesis with evidence to support it. You repeatedly reply that your "argument" is self-evident.This IS the science forum, so I will ask for possibly the ninth time. Do you have any evidence?

Of course, but this being a science forum means that both parties must attempt to bring some evidence to the table. As far as I can see the anti-mutation proponents bring nothing to their side of the table other a declaration of the "self-evident truth" of their position and a rejection of any evidence that contradicts it.This would be fine in a faith forum, but in a science forum it takes the biscuit, so to speak.In my opinion the honest response is not to accept that one is wrong, but to accept that one's position, due to lack of hypothesis/evidence, is primarily faith-based.

I disagree - but fair enough, have it your way...I suspect, however, that it's only a matter of time before Mick loses patience with you....

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Examples of evidence supporting benefitial mutations (like sickle cell or antibiotic resistance) have been given. You may reject these but they ARE examples of current evidence...Now, as far as the organism is concerned a mutation is simply a mutation. It is the environment into which it is introduced the determines whether it is beneficial or not. A useful mutation in one situation will be useless in another. They are ALL just mutations. Okay, so given you accept that new alleles can arise do you concede that there is at least a possiblity for a mutation to give an advantage in a certain environment?If this is indeed a possbility then where lies a barrier to beneficial mutation?Edited by RickJB, : No reason given.

If you regard a simple request for evidence as a put-down then that says much more about you than me!It may seem that I'm not following "the argument", but all I am trying to do is to tie you down to a clear, consistent hypothesis....Edited by RickJB, : No reason given.

Still no evidence of this mysterious "barrier"! Edited by RickJB, : No reason given.