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Author Topic:   Atheism, a dangerous idea?
Jaderis
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Message 41 of 241 (328405)
07-03-2006 3:40 AM
Reply to: Message 22 by nwr
07-01-2006 9:48 PM


Re: Asimov on atheism
Thank you for that link...I hope that everyone on this forum will read and understand where Asimov is coming from, even if they do not completely agree with him. I have lived and am living the progression of morality through experience. I was raised without direct religious indoctrination. I, of course, knew about Christianity early on (and other religions later) through books and then through friends (I was a voracious reader well before the age when my friends started talking about God) and my parents (mom raised Methodist, dad raised Catholic) told me that I could go to Sunday school with some of my friends but they told me that I could not attend any church regularly until I was 13 so that I would be able to ask critical questions while I made my spiritual journey. I was able to explore many religious doctrines and philosophies without the bias of one was right and the others wrong.
My sense of morality was based on stories told by my parents about war, their own lives, sharing with my siblings and lessons learned about pain and kindness and everything that I experienced as a child. That is the same as certain religions, I suppose, because I learned from stories passed down to me and applied them to my life. I am still developing my "morals" every day based on what I have learned and what I can apply to my basic tenet: (like the Wiccans and others) to harm none.
Christians believe they have a monopoly on morality, but I feel that as long as you believe that you can be forgiven of anything, you are capable of doing anything.

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Jaderis
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Posts: 622
From: NY,NY
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Message 44 of 241 (328444)
07-03-2006 6:40 AM
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07-03-2006 5:56 AM


Re: Asimov on atheism
Your parents certainly had a very interesting way of dealing with religion. Very commendable.
I think so, too. I know it had alot to do with their own experiences with (different) religion growing up and questioning the "proper" way to raise us.
I have a very vivid memory of reading Little House on the Prairie when I was about 6 and wanting to say the "Now I lay me down to sleep.." prayer that Laura Ingalls said in the book before bed and my mom obliged, but the next morning she asked me why I wanted to pray and who I was praying to and I couldn't answer the first question and then that made me think about the second and so began my journey. She never came down on me whatever I came up with no matter how far-fetched, but ever since then I always questioned my own motives for believing what I do. My father as well...but he was more of the teacher of my worldview because of his career in the military and his love for other cultures as well as American culture and history. But that is another tale.

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Jaderis
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Message 231 of 241 (333218)
07-19-2006 6:47 AM
Reply to: Message 229 by riVeRraT
07-19-2006 6:16 AM


Re: Christian morality discussion as related to OP
Subjective morals are a danger, for both religious, and non-religious
Yes, they are indeed very dangerous considering the state of the world for the last several millenia. So let's all just agree on one set and be done with it all. Now, whose shall we agree on, yours, mine or bob's?
What was that? "God's" you say? Well, now we have to agree on what exactly God's morals are.
You can start the list.

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