Satcomm and Nixon

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Nixon created the Environmental Protection Agency!

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The head of the EPA disagrees with you. Here is his own words:http://www.epa.gov/history/publications/ruck/07.htm

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He also created the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA), and the Consumer Product Safety Commission.

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OSHA was created under the Occupational Safety and Health Act, a bipartisan measure enacted on Dec. 29, 1970, and signed by President Richard M. Nixon. How did Nixon "create" OSHA?

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He was also the first president to require strict quotas for minorities for federal construction projects.

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Why are you citing this? I suppose the entire right wing is rascist?

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He also made an anti-ballistic missle treaty with the Soviet Union.

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Lyndon B. Johnson and Defense Secretary McNamara propose strict limits on ABM systems to the USSR during a joint summit in New Jersey, 1967. The USSR refused the proposal.Later that year Defense Secretary McNamara announces the US decision to deploy Sentinel, a thin ABM system.1969, President Nixon announces the Safeguard system, a re-orginization of the current Sentinel system. Changing it from a thin system to a fully functional ABM system.The USSR and the US begin the Strategic Arms Limitations Talks, a few months later.1972, Nixon signs the ABM treaty with the USSR.Johnson proposed the idea, not Nixon. The Soviets got scared and decided to talk after, and only after, Nixon announced the Safeguard system.

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Compared to the Republicans today, Ol' Dick Nixon sounds like a regular left-wing Socialist, doesn't he?

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No, he doesn't, however, you do.

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THIS is why I say that there is no meaningful "left" voice in this country today. Most Democrats are centrist and most Republicans are pretty far-Right.

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I agree. The left IS meaningless. Everything is going to be far right when you reside in the extreme left.

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The idea that the mainstream media does anything but go along to get along is silly. They do what they can to MAKE MONEY, and tends to make them be more about feel-good entertainment than in challenging the status quo or doing any real investigative journalism.

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We are a nation based on capitalism. What did you expect? Journalism is reporting facts, not challenging whatever is popular. Your romantic view of journalism is naive.Do me a favor and forward this post to whatever left wing propaganda rag that spoonfed you this bunk information in hope they will revise their "facts" to reflect the truth.Are you going to tell me Reagan was a Communist spy next?

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Regardless, he still created the EPA, just like I said he did.

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No. He signed a piece of paper. Creating such a thing is completely different.

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He made it happen. Can you see any Republican president signing a big government program like that into existence today?

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Why yes I can. President Bush "created" a big government program called the Homeland Security Department.

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My point was, and is, as I stated above, that a conservative Republican these days would probably not be signing any anti-missile treaties with anybody.

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Bush is not a Conservative Republican. So who are you referencing?

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Actually, if you knew anything of investigative journalism from as little as 50 years ago, you would know that it took it's mandate to challenge the status quo and investigate the powers that be very seriously.

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Where can I find said mandate?

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Today, you will not hear one critical voice about this impending confrontation with Iraq, nor will you see much coverage of any of the protests and marches that have happened.

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Anti-war demonstrations are hardly news worthy. Being informed of current events around the world will always take precedence over silly college kids complaining about policies they can't comprehend.

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ME: Do me a favor and forward this post to whatever left wing propaganda rag that spoonfed you this bunk information in hope they will revise their "facts" to reflect the truth.

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YOU: Personal attack, devoid of any content

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Not a personal attack. I asked you simple to send the information to whatever liberal rag you read, however, I did not say you had a pointy head or a hunch back.

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Are you going to go to some anger-management classes next?

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You are specifically attacking me here. See the difference? Perhaps I should cry to the admins in hope of getting you suspended.

My first post in response to this thread debunked everything she had to say complete with references. I am curious, how is that badgering her?

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Your reference merely put Nixon's actions regarding the EPA into context. No matter your opinion, as much as a President "creates" any program, Nixon did create the EPA.

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In my eyes Nixon did not create the EPA. He simply signed what was put in front of him. Bush on the other hand created the Homeland Security department from it's inception.

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The idea that Bush is not a conservative republican scares the hell out of me. There are people MORE CONSERVATIVE THAN BUSH? I realize he hasn't enacted as many conservative programs as conservatives would like, but certainly his heart is all for it.

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Bush is not a conservative. Conservatism is applied by giving the power to the people not government. Bush is doing the opposite by creating more government instead of less. He is definetely republican though.

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BTW, from an outsider's perspective, your post did come off a little hostile and contrary for the sake of being contrary. Not saying you meant it to be that way, just saying I can see why people would think that.

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I admit I can be quite abraisive when not intending to be. I still don't think I was badgering her just for badgering sake.