He with closed mouth gathers no foot.

{See message 13 for two previous topics on this same theme. - Adminnemooseus}A few months or so back I watched the Charlie Rose show where it had Jamews D Watson and Edward O. Wilson talking about Darwin, opposition to Evolution, and intelligent design. There is already a thread about this show, but I just want to add my 2 cents into the fray.In this show, Watson made the claim that he knew only one serious scientist who believed in a personal God who answers our prayers and interfers with our lives and aware of our existence. Edward O. Wilson replied that he didn't know a one, though later he did admit that He knew Francis Collins, who Watson said was a Believer in such a personal God and still was a serious sceintist.Watson also made the claim that Darwin was the most important person to have ever lived. It made me think of religious overtones, to say the least, but I continued to listen.Then he made the statement that his book and Edward's book about Darwin where two versions of their Bible. Edward replied "The only difference is that we didn't try to rewrite Darwin" with a grin. He also said "We didn't hold any councils to decide what was true and what wasn't true" Which is true in a sense, if one looks at the council of Nicea (which wans't about Christ's deity as much as if he and God the father where the same being yet two persons, which was rivaled by arianism, which claimed otherwise)James D. Watson said another time "Whereas the Bible has been rewritten..."Now if you want to say these kinds of things on Television, then you can proceed. We have freedom of speech in America, which is a great thing. But, just being Devil's advocate (Hehe)If you are living in a nation who has a 51-82 or so percentage of people that dont believe in darwinian evolution, and you want to change that and show them there is no conflict between religion and science (as my good boddy Jar has said to me on this forum)You dont go on National TV In the United States and claim the Bible has been rewritten (majority of Americans are Christians, and many are Jews.), that Darwin was the most important person who ever lived, That the majority of true sceintists dont believe in a personal God, and that Books about Darwin are your Bible! You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. I think they may have put their foot in their mouth.Their attitude sems to reinforce Ken Ham's claims that Evolution is a religion (LOL)You can just see that aussie grinning when this happened. Now more Americans will see sceintists as non-religious. More will believe Ken ham's claims that Evolution is a religion and reject it, and more and more will lose faith in science. We already have enough problems trying to get more students to take careers in science. That just might be hampered.Now to be fare, Wilson wants to reach out to the religious community and is writing a book about faith and science. But if I was wanting to reach out, I wouldn't attack one of their religious books (Hebrew Bible/Christian Bible)on live TV.Now these statements dont make evolution wrong scientifically (Though I have some doubts about the whole enchilada of the theory of evolution)but it makes the average American wonder if evolution might also have some religious presence stuck to it.I wont have time to debate this much, but both creos ands evos are more than abliged to debate one another. If you critique me, I wont be upset, but if you do, or if you critique others, try to be respectful.This message has been edited by Adminnemooseus, 05-05-2006 04:08 PM

Sorry for posting it in the wrong thread Okay, anybody want to comment?

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

Top of the morning Chirp I dont have much time on this, but I'm glad you responded. I hope others come soon.

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

Cant reply to all your stuff now, but I have to ask: What does IMHO stand for? Oh shucks! I was wanting to call myself Zeus !This message has been edited by LudoRephaim, 05-01-2006 03:36 PM

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

Thanks Chirp You dont mind if I call you Chrip? It's a lot easier to remember and quicker to write down LOL

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

Thanks Jar BTW: what happened to your original avatar? It was great! I like Orangutans.

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4