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Brian
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Message 3 of 120 (283214)
02-01-2006 3:40 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by dattaswami
02-01-2006 12:09 PM


Slight error
Hi,
Moreover every religion states that their God only created this world.
Every religion does not state this.
Buddhism seems to be an exception, with no god and no creation myth.
Coming to think of it, does Taoism have a god and a creation story, and what about Confucianism any god there?
Brian.

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Brian
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Message 13 of 120 (283401)
02-02-2006 11:23 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by dattaswami
02-02-2006 11:01 AM


Re: Slight error
Hi,
Buddhism keeps silent about God and this was misunderstood as atheism.
Buddhists believe in many gods, but they are of a lower existence than humans.
Buddhists thought that Buddha kept silent since God does not exist at all.
Since Buddha preached anicca (expanded by Nagarjuna's sunyata) then there can be no eternal beings in Buddhism.
Buddhism is an offspring of Hinduism and Buddha is treated as God in flesh.
Maybe by Hindus, but Buddha, in fact there are numerous Buddhas, is not seen as a God by Buddhists.
Buddha is in the list of Ten Human Incarnations of the Lord
In Hinduism the Buddha was an incarnation of Vishnu. But this is Hindu mythology, an attempt to address the challenge of Buddhism. So, you err when you say Buddhists think that Buddha was God.
and if you say That Buddha denied God it means he denied himself,
I didn't say he denied God, but he didn't say that there was.
You are misunderstanding my statement, which was "Buddhism seems to be an exception, with no god and no creation myth."
Now, if you disagree could you please present BUDDHIST teachings that claim Siddartha was God? I am not asking for Hindu beliefs thanks.
moreover Buddhists say Buddham Saranam Gachchami, which means that they surrender to Buddha.
It is a form of veneration for a being who achieved enlightenment, he is seen as an inspiration, an example of what can be acheived, he isnt seen as God.
Atleast this means that they treat Buddha greater than themselves
Thye only see him as an example of what can be achieved, he has entered pari-nirvana.
and so Buddha can be treated as Messenger of God in view of the Buddhists.
Buddhists don;t believe in God, they do not believe in anything eternal.
Try reading Nagarjuna's teaching of Sunyata, it negates the possibility of there being an eternal God, whether that god be Brahman, Yahweh, or any other alleged eternal being.
Thanks for the reply.
Brian.

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Brian
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Message 14 of 120 (283403)
02-02-2006 11:26 AM
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02-02-2006 10:56 AM


Anatta
You are a drop of pure awareness, which is called as soul or casual body.
You are aware that Buddha taught that there is no such thing as a 'soul' (atman)?
Brian.

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Brian
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Message 108 of 120 (300096)
04-01-2006 3:29 PM
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03-24-2006 9:26 AM


Re: Evolution of Religious Thought
Hi Datt,
You still havent told me why Shakyamuni would teach that there was no soul if he was the same god that the Hindus worshipped who taught there was a soul.
Brian.

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Brian
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Message 110 of 120 (300115)
04-01-2006 4:06 PM
Reply to: Message 109 by BMG
04-01-2006 4:04 PM


Re: Slight error
Hi,
I agree with your assertion that some Buddhists believe the Buddha is treated as God in flesh, but only in Mahayana Buddhism.
Are you sure about this mate? This is contrary to everything I know about Mahayana Buddhism so could you perhaps help me out with some references to support it?
Brian.

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Brian
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From: Scotland
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Message 112 of 120 (300121)
04-01-2006 4:28 PM
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04-01-2006 4:24 PM


Re: Slight error
Do you have bibliographical details of the book.
Many thanks.
Brian.

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