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ramoss
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Message 123 of 147 (281943)
01-27-2006 9:09 AM
Reply to: Message 121 by eevans
01-26-2006 11:46 PM


Re: Intelligent Design Video
From what I see, there are some problems with the videos. First of all, the science that is mentioned is 40 years out of date. Behe's oncepts and Demski's have been analysise repeated here. When ti comes to the formation of protiens, the video was using science 40 years out of date.
There have been plenty of work about how early protiens formed from amino acids since the guy who wrote that book got it wrong. The leap of logic from "I can figure it out" to "It must have been 'an intelligent designer , (i.e. god)' is the logical fallacy known as personal incredibilty.
It also uses the 'flagellia moter' claim. That has been shown to be totally false also. It repeats falsified claims that bahe made, it uses the logical fallacy of 'personal incredibilty' and science that is 40 years out of date. It was very slickly produced, but it gave false information... a lot of this information that even a little bit of research on their part they would have KNOWN is incorrect. Considering the debates they have all been though, it would have been
practically impossible for them NOT to know this information.
It was nicely produced, and will convince the people who are ignorant of the science behind it. However, the arguements do not hold up to scientific scrutiny.

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Message 141 of 147 (293881)
03-10-2006 7:51 AM
Reply to: Message 140 by AlgolagniaVolcae
03-10-2006 3:54 AM


The problem with I.D. being a species from outer space is the quesdtion how did that species come into beling. It would have to be "as complex" as we are, and therefore life as it would have either needed to be 'created' by another race, or formed naturally. If it formed natuarlly, why add it into the equation for life on earth? IF it had to have a helping hand from another designer, where did that designer come from?
Now, if you ask the major proponents of I.D., they will admit that they believe this intelligent designer is god. (Behe did it in court in the Dover trial).
Combined with the lack of evidence and testing methology, the logical conumdrum about 'where did the intelligent designer come from', and the strong statements by all the major propoents they think the 'intelligent designer' is god makes "Intellignet design" a religious movement, not science.

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