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inkorrekt Member (Idle past 6112 days) Posts: 382 From: Westminster,CO, USA Joined: |
The discovery institute advised the Dover School board not to push ID in school agenda as the time is not yet ripe. The introduction of ID is only to challenge the icons of evolution. I believe this is the first step. The next step for us is to introduce ID. Then, the debate will have some life.
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inkorrekt Member (Idle past 6112 days) Posts: 382 From: Westminster,CO, USA Joined: |
Text books are now available. But, they are all based on creation. All that they have to do is to eliminate any mention of the Creator and make changes based only based on Science
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inkorrekt Member (Idle past 6112 days) Posts: 382 From: Westminster,CO, USA Joined: |
We can debate whether evolution OR Creation occured. The bottom line is our Students are not learning good science at all.This is the destiny of all our controversies. Instead of telling our students, this is how it occured, we must be honest enough to state that at this time, we can only speculate about the origins of life till a definite proof is established. That will only be fair and reasonable. Today, in our society Science has been politicalized just as AIDS, abortion, marriage, war etc.
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inkorrekt Member (Idle past 6112 days) Posts: 382 From: Westminster,CO, USA Joined: |
Creation is based on supernaturalism. But not ID.
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inkorrekt Member (Idle past 6112 days) Posts: 382 From: Westminster,CO, USA Joined: |
If Science had not been politicalized, we did not have to have these forum at all.I do not understand why you are so upset when I mentioned all these politically Correct/ incorrect issues that are destroying our society. Much of the evils in our society are due to our belief systems. What we belive will determine our lifestyles. This is where we are. So, what I wrote is very very relevant for today.Just because you disagree does not mean that these problems do not exist.
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inkorrekt Member (Idle past 6112 days) Posts: 382 From: Westminster,CO, USA Joined: |
What is it based on? Any new information needs creativity. How do you define creativity?
"What predictions can it make?" Prediction is somthing the scientists do. ID only offers an alternative explanation for the origin of life processes. "What testable statement, if proven true, falsifies ID".This is mute question. "What explainatory power does it have?" What are the various components involved in any invention and the processes involved in them.
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inkorrekt Member (Idle past 6112 days) Posts: 382 From: Westminster,CO, USA Joined: |
We do not know who the designer is. All the evidence is poointing towards this.
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inkorrekt Member (Idle past 6112 days) Posts: 382 From: Westminster,CO, USA Joined: |
It is very very plain and simple. Do you know who Steve Jobs is? If you know, then you will not ask this question. Steve Jobs is not the universal designer. What he did with the first apple computer will explain.
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inkorrekt Member (Idle past 6112 days) Posts: 382 From: Westminster,CO, USA Joined: |
We do not know.
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inkorrekt Member (Idle past 6112 days) Posts: 382 From: Westminster,CO, USA Joined: |
There are many processes that can never occur without a designer. I will have to repeat what I said before. We would have never had the apple computer, if Steve Jobs did not exist or if he did not design or for this reason, no one designed it. This is self explnatory.
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inkorrekt Member (Idle past 6112 days) Posts: 382 From: Westminster,CO, USA Joined: |
You have answered your own question
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inkorrekt Member (Idle past 6112 days) Posts: 382 From: Westminster,CO, USA Joined: |
How does ID fit in history class? Same can be asked of evolution too.Evolution is only a philosophy based on naturalisnm. How does evolution fit in Science class?
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inkorrekt Member (Idle past 6112 days) Posts: 382 From: Westminster,CO, USA Joined: |
Evolution is not a philosophy. It's a theory. The best working theory as to how life became the way it is today. Evolution is based on DNA, proteins, genetic mutations, etc. Evolutionary theory is based in chemistry, biology and physics. Now what are these classes? I am not buying this. The trouble with all proponents of evolutionists is that they some how believe that by using scientific terminology as well as incorporating DNA,proteins, genetic mutations etc, they can convince everyone that Evolution is a Science. If evolution is science, then what is naturalism?
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inkorrekt Member (Idle past 6112 days) Posts: 382 From: Westminster,CO, USA Joined: |
This sounds just like Hindu philosophy. It is hard for me to imagine the universe to function by itself. For example, the planets are in their own orbits. If their motion is altered even by a fraction, it will affect the weather pattern of our planet.Life will become extinct if the temperature shifts outside the norms. Our planet maintains the necessary conditions so that plant and animal life will be sustained. There has to be something governing the entire universe. There was abeginning like the Big bang. There must also be an end. In between everything is sustained. How?
This message has been edited by inkorrekt, 04-11-2006 10:41 PM
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inkorrekt Member (Idle past 6112 days) Posts: 382 From: Westminster,CO, USA Joined: |
Like plate tectonics, or organic chemistry, or observations of quasars, or how airplane wings give lift had to be . These are not difficult. They are already available from Beka Publications. However, these are based on creation. ID has no problem with Real Sciences like Physics, Chemistry, biology and mathematics. They should be available.I am sure there are people working on this. As far as peer review and publications are concerned, any publication in scientific journals on ID is next to impossibility. For example, a paper got published in a prestigious journal and the editor who approved this got reprimanded and the policy has changed(not to publish anything related to ID). We live in free country. There is competition and free market everywhere except in Education. Here again, it is selective. Regarding teaching Science,there was a recent news article: A Science teacher showed an antiamerican video in a Tax funded public School in a Science class. There was an outcry from the parents. The parents were informed that action was taken only to pacify the parents. The teacher is still enjoying his freedom to teach non academic subjects in Science classes. Non academic subjects can be taught everywhere whereas any challenge to Evolution is not allowed. In the prevailing situation, any text book on ID may never be approved in public Schools. That is understandable. The only places where it can be taught is in private schools. This message has been edited by inkorrekt, 04-15-2006 01:26 PM
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