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Early Instances of Christian Elements: Borrowings, Anticipations or Satanic Mockery?

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02-13-2006 11:28 AM 		Reply to: Message 1 by Omnivorous
02-13-2006 9:26 AM

any tradition worth having is worth stealing.
Certainly Christianity borrowed from and adopted traditions from other cultures and religions. Much of Paul's ministry was based around identifying those facets of other religions and cultures that were a barrier to joining Christianity and adopting them or tossing out the existing ones.
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Paul went through the list of Christian practices, customs and traditions and threw out those he felt were a barrier. But he also adopted practices from other religions. One good example is found in the story of "the unknown God" where he simply adopted an existing facility.
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02-13-2006 11:42 AM 		Reply to: Message 9 by Faith
02-13-2006 11:34 AM

Re: any tradition worth having is worth stealing.
Christianity borrowed absolutely nothing from anywhere. It was all the outworking of the revelation of God through His prophets to Israel. No other factors entered into it.
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You keep saying that even when you contradict yourself in the same post.
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Faith writes:
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Paul did what missionaries always do if they're any good. They make use of existing concepts in the culture they are trying to reach with the gospel.
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And that is the whole point.
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The history of religions, including Christianity, does not exist in a vacuum. Religions, including Christianity are the creation of man, and they borrow. Religions are influenced by the cultures of the peoples in an area and in an era. The Christians built on a basis of the Jews who in turn were influenced by earlier civilizations and religions. In time they borrowed from other religions and peoples, the Greeks, the Romans, the Celts, the Druids, the Norse.
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As you said, "You use what comes to hand to communicate."
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jar
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02-13-2006 7:20 PM 		Reply to: Message 16 by Faith
02-13-2006 6:58 PM

Some pretty wild assertions there Faith.
Judaism is false religion.
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Do you have some support for that or is this just your opinion?
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It is based on the Talmud, not on the Old Testament.
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Do you have some support for that or is this just your opinion?
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The New Testament interprets the Old Testament correctly.
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Do you have some support for that or is this just your opinion?
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02-13-2006 7:29 PM 		Reply to: Message 20 by Faith
02-13-2006 7:21 PM

Re: Some pretty wild assertions there Faith.
Fine Faith. Chapter and verse so we can discuss your wild assertions.
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Where is it said that "Judaism is false religion"?
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Where is your support that "It [Judaism] is based on the Talmud, not on the Old Testament"?
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Where is your support that "The New Testament interprets the Old Testament correctly"?
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I'm sorry Faith but your posts are simply yet more examples of the Intolerance of Christianity. And no where do they address those things that Christianity has adopted, borrowed or co-opted from other religions.
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02-13-2006 7:45 PM 		Reply to: Message 22 by Faith
02-13-2006 7:38 PM

Re: Some pretty wild assertions there Faith.
Chapter and verse Faith so we can discuss them. Right now you are only making generalized assertions. Furthermore, Pharisee and scribe is not synonymous with Juadaism.
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My posts certainly do deny that Christianity has adopted anything whatever.
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Yes, but when such things have been pointed out to you you simply try to handwave them away. You have provided no support for your position.
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And you bet Christianity is intolerant of evil and lies and pious frauds like you. I call on God to expose you as the fraud you are.
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Yeah, yeah, Faith. Perhaps you could begin by supporting some of your assertions.
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