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Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 1 of 15 (284518)
02-06-2006 10:41 PM


Scottish Declaration of Independance.
http://www.constitution.org/scot/arbroath.htm
"Most Holy Father and Lord, we know and from the chronicles and books of the ancients we find that among other famous nations our own, the Scots, has been graced with widespread renown. They journeyed from Greater Scythia by way of the Tyrrhenian Sea and the Pillars of Hercules, and dwelt for a long course of time in Spain among the most savage tribes, but nowhere could they be subdued by any race, however barbarous. Thence they came, twelve hundred years after the people of Israel crossed the Red Sea, to their home in the west where they still live today."
All of the Scottish lords who signed the text did so by attaching their seals:
http://www.abcog.org/gifs/arbroath.jpg
The Scots are claiming to be ancestors of scattered 10 tribe Israel.
Ray

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Message 5 of 15 (284722)
02-07-2006 6:44 PM
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02-07-2006 12:34 PM


Re: Rabbi Brian Ishmael Yacob Abram Mactavish!
read the Declaration again, it doesn't even hint at what you are suggesting.
Then why does it say what it says, that is the quoted portion in the OP ?
But this is matter for the debate.
The other two Admins are clueless since I pasted the quote directly from the text.
Anyone who does not understand the OP is declaring their uneducated status. I am well educated about Scottish and Irish history.
Ray

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Message 6 of 15 (284726)
02-07-2006 6:57 PM
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02-07-2006 1:06 AM


Re: One source?
Ray, what is it about this document that you want to talk about?
If its not clear then you are not qualified to judge it....but like most ignorant persons they have the most to say as is seen in your next comment....
This is not the final word on Scottish History
Who said it was ?
Why are you debating the topic while unpromoted ?
The topic is narrow as guidelines suggest.
it merely represents one viewpoint as far as I can see
What are you talking about ? What difference does it make ? What does this have to do with promotion ?
What viewpoint are you speaking about ? I quote from the text. Why are you making biased ignorant points ?
The text claims ancestry from Israel. What is your blue box point talking about ?
Here we have an enraged Darwinian Mod making senseless points holding up a topic with nonsense.
All my questions are rhetorical.
A good topic should include the authors beliefs as well as some supporting documents.
What are you talking about ?
I made my point about the text.
I am sorry you are so angry - I withdraw the topic. I will not waste my time with a pseudo christian Fundy/Darwinian idiot like you.
Ray Martinez

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Message 7 of 15 (284728)
02-07-2006 7:00 PM


The only reason the topic is being help up by lunacy is because you cannot refute.
Debating whether we should debate = point conceded by atheists and their TEist puppets.
I am now 2 for 2, that is topics sabotaged by enraged Mods unable to refute. Both of my topics are only held up because you cannot refute.
Ray Martinez
This message has been edited by Herepton, 02-07-2006 04:02 PM

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Message 10 of 15 (284731)
02-07-2006 7:06 PM
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02-07-2006 7:01 PM


Re: Watch your Behaviour
I will ban myself.
There is NO valid reason for holding up the topic. Phat is enraged as they come - unable to refute = explanation of his idiotic points.
Brian knows better. He made a debate point while not promoting.
You atheists and Darwinits can orgy among yourselves - I get the picture. I am gone.
Ray
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Message 12 of 15 (284733)
02-07-2006 7:07 PM
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02-07-2006 7:04 PM


Don't talk about it just do it.
Ray

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Message 13 of 15 (284734)
02-07-2006 7:10 PM
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02-07-2006 7:07 PM


Re: Rabbi Brian Ishmael Yacob Abram Mactavish!
You have a quote from a website
Negative.... person who has the ability to deduce obscure fossil scraps.
I HAVE A QUOTE FROM THE DECLARATION ITSELF.
Ray
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Message 14 of 15 (284736)
02-07-2006 7:16 PM
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02-07-2006 7:07 PM


Re: Rabbi Brian Ishmael Yacob Abram Mactavish!
Rockhound:
I know more about the history of your country than you do.
Want a one on one debate ?
Ireland/Hibernia/Hebrew.
Heremon married the daughter of Zedekiah.
waiting....
Ray

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