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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1496 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
You owe me an apology. Yeah, but you owe me one, which you've never delivered, so I wouldn't go around expecting people to take you seriously about things like that.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1496 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
This whole post is a personal attack against me, and a chronicle of Mr. Ex.'s attempts to dodge uncomfortable questions with personal attacks ("how old are you", "you DO have a S.O. right?") instead of legitimate rebuttals.
What am I old enough to know better? I'm old enough to know better than to try to dismiss an opponent's point because of his age; I'm old enough to know that that's an ad hominem attack and clearly against the guidelines. What does Mr. Ex. need an excuse for? For responding to a legitimate line of questioning by trying to dismiss me based on my age. Which is really quite funny, since judging by his avatar he's probably not older than I am. So, let's cover it again, Mr. Ex. What's your excuse for this behavior? What's your excuse for responding to legitimate questions with ad hominem attacks? For as often as I've been falsely accused of ad hominem by the admins these past few days, let's see if they put their money where their mouths are and deal with this extensive campaign by Mr Ex. to dodge my questions by insulting me.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1496 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
I'll also note that even if they decide against me I'll respect that. I just want some answers as to why you're allowed to behave like you do here. You mean, ask questions and expect answers? See, I'm wondering the exact same thing about you. Why is it that you're allowed to respond to a legitimate line of questioning by interrogating me about my age and referring to me as a "juvenile"?
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1496 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
If you're gonna take a shot at crash, make sure you do it within the context of addressing the issues directly. I'm man enough to take some barbs. Honestly I wasn't that offended. It's the hypocrisy, though, of Mr. Ex. lacing his posts with these clumsy barbs and then referring to me as the one who's getting personal. I don't mind a spitting match, but let's be absolutely clear about who started it in that thread, ok?
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1496 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Heh, fair enough. Though I wasn't the one that demanded moderator action, after all.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1496 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
If you're asking why Mr. Ex wasn't suspended, it's because I've found him willing to follow warnings and because I don't see him acting like this. I don't want him suspended. How could he answer my questions if that happened? What I was asking is why the hypocrisy isn't immediately apparent to him. Only he can say, I guess.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1496 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
I wonder if someone was requesting a Biblical source from someone other than Faith, and Faith stepped in and supplied the source. Yes. I asked Buz for a cite and Faith provided it (and my thanks to her for doing so.) It's ridiculous that, after several posts by Faith and myself making it clear that that's what was going on, there's still puzzlement about why Faith would post a verse and then not appear to be supporting it's position.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1496 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Just for that, CF, I will apologize for telling you off about your political rant. Sorry to have lost my temper at you to such an extent. Let's stay cool. Let's do. You have a piercing, fascinating intellect when you're willing to approach the subject with an open mind, so it's usually enjoyable to talk to you. You probably don't find the same thing about me, for which I am sorry.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1496 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
You've misunderstood, and you're blowing it way out of proportion.
All I meant was that you copied and pasted some kind of boilerplate response (or perhaps out of your oft-mentioned "paper") you have to "Darwinists" (whatever they are) rather than actually grappling with my questions. Questions you still have not responded to. Also, you never provided any indication or support for your assertion of "experiments". You have not been accused of plagarism, and this attempt and distraction and diversion is both reprehensible and futile.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1496 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Herepton did answer your question Not in any meaninful way. Maybe you and I have two different ideas of what it means to answer a question, but when I ask "Why is the sky blue?" and the response is "Two o'trout, hand me a piano", I don't consider that an answer. Ray's response was equally nonsense, equally a non-sequiter. He did not answer the question.
Both Herepton and some of his counterparts here should use less inflamitory words in discussing this matter. To quote Solomon, "A soft answer turns away wrath." I'm content to address other members in the manner that they address me. This is my well-known mode of operation.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1496 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
My point is that you did get an answer which was substantially more than, "Two o'trout, hand me a piano." I'm sorry, but I simply couldn't make heads or tails of Ray's response to me. If you believe that his response was substantial, then perhaps you'd like to drop into that thread and explain it to little ol' me.
No. That's not how the Forum Guidelines work. Let me rephrase; short of violations of the guidelines, I'm content to respond in kind. It's generally the only way people understand; by tailoring your responses to their unique perspective.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1496 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Because genuine non-Darwinian macroevolution is a fact within kinds. These large populations have never been breached. Darwinists come along and assert their macro must be true based upon whatever degree of micro occurring within the kind. Buz, if you can make heads or tails of these sentences, which are completely devoid of meaning to me - I literally can't understand what Ray is trying to say, here - then like I said, I'd appreciate it if you wanted to drop into the discussion and explain it to me. If you don't believe that I simply don't understand, then I guess I don't know what to say to you. But I have appreciated your moderation on this issue. Very even-handed.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1496 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
I didn't immediately associate Arach's new alias with Arach; as a result, I didn't realize I had posted in a "Great Debate" topic.
My mistake! Deepest apologies.
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