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Author Topic:   The state of ID/YECism here at EvC
custard
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Message 8 of 62 (271283)
12-21-2005 8:54 AM
Reply to: Message 6 by Mammuthus
12-21-2005 8:38 AM


Evolutionary biology on the other hand results in novel published and peer reviewed work every single week...so while there is always more to talk about with regard to the science of evolution...there won't be anything really new to talk about with creationism or ID.
And here is what strikes me as odd: why aren't more evos debating other evos?
I know this isn't the EvE forum, but your observation and Holmes's lament about having nothing else to discuss made me wonder about this. I don't understand why the Evos present such a united camp in almost every thread.
People keep referring to THE ToE, but which version?
The funny thing is, saavy ID's could use more evolutionists arguments against them - at least here - since some of the evos seem as dogmatic as any ID/YEC.

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custard
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Message 10 of 62 (271294)
12-21-2005 9:27 AM
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12-21-2005 9:13 AM


I'm sadly ignorant
Yet here are two versions I can think of off the top of my head:
1- Neo-Darwinism
2- Punctuated Equilibrium
It would seem to me that some of the arguments made by the PE camp could be incorporated (and twisted) to help IDs attack many of the typical evo claims.
For example, I constantly see a post explaining to some IDer or creo that "the reason we don't see many transitional fossils is because fossilization is so rare."

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custard
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Message 12 of 62 (271297)
12-21-2005 9:35 AM
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12-21-2005 9:27 AM


Re: I'm sadly ignorant
Then, apparently, there are also different flavors of Neo-Darwinism like Richard Dawkins.
I am astounded that whenever creos are presented with the 'but we see evolution all around us every day' post none of them fire back with an 'according to Dawkins "Evolution has been observed. It's just that it hasn't been observed while it's happening."'
Of course he's an athiest, but what the heck, ammunition is ammunition.

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custard
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Message 13 of 62 (271298)
12-21-2005 9:36 AM
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12-21-2005 9:34 AM


OK
I thought PE was not accepted by all evos?
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