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bkelly
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Message 125 of 146 (266948)
12-08-2005 6:08 PM
Reply to: Message 95 by randman
12-06-2005 6:37 PM


Re: Religious groups:
randman writes:
No where is the government forbidden from favoring religion. They are only restricted from favoring one religion over another.
first amendment writes:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
The first amendment, and therefore the constitution, says quite clearly that there shall be no laws regarding religion. That means not for any religion, not against any religion. It is interperted to mean that religious concepts shall not be the basis of any laws. It does not state and does not imply anything about favorites. You need to read the words in the constitution before you make claims about what it says.
I am amazed that you have not been to called to task on this long before now. (If someone did in a later post I have not read, my appologies.)

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bkelly
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Message 141 of 146 (267641)
12-10-2005 8:28 PM
Reply to: Message 131 by randman
12-10-2005 1:23 AM


Re: Religious groups:
That's right. No laws and so the government is not forbidden from ackowledging God, participating in religious expressions, nor from grants to faith-base charities, as these are not laws pertaining to religion.
I just find it amazing that someone with the intelligence necessary to read enough to communicate on the internet cannot interpert a simple statement that has already been interperted by the supreme court.
The government must stay out of religion. Religious expression is religious. Faith based charities are religious. There is no concept of favoring one religion as you did indeed say. The governmen stays out. Got it?
No, you don't get it. Becuase you don't want it.
Carry on randman. Don't let any of those stinking facts get in your way.

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bkelly
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Message 142 of 146 (267642)
12-10-2005 8:34 PM
Reply to: Message 124 by Omnivorous
12-08-2005 12:09 PM


polysyllable abuse
Of course, Bush also says that God told him to invade Iraq, but I think that was just a case of brain-cell death from poly-substance abuse.
Maybe that was compounded by his polysyllable abuse. He struggles with two and hurts himself with more. (examples not necessary)

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bkelly
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Message 143 of 146 (267644)
12-10-2005 8:46 PM
Reply to: Message 139 by Silent H
12-10-2005 6:34 AM


Re: Faith Based organizations
holmes writes:
God looks puzzled and then answers... "But I sent you a lifeguard, a boat , and a helicopter."
Then the news reporter interviewed the life guard, and the boat crew and the helicopter crew and they all said they were atheist. God didn't send them. If you want to find out what god sent, talk to that third guy that RAZD mentioned. Yeah, the one that drowned.

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bkelly
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Message 145 of 146 (267756)
12-11-2005 11:51 AM
Reply to: Message 144 by Silent H
12-11-2005 6:02 AM


Have you ever been helped?
Hello holmes,
My intent was to agree with you and add a bit of my perspective.
To continue my point: Has anyone, anywhere, anytime, substantiated that they have received help from the supernatural? (To include god, angels, aliens, magic, etc) What about from the dark side, Satan maybe.
(edit for typo)
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