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AdminNosy Administrator Posts: 4754 From: Vancouver, BC, Canada Joined: |
Nuggin, that topic is not for here. Thanks
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
Mirabile_Auditu,
Although you attributed it to Modulous, you were actually quoting my post. Nothing in your response or in the subsequent responses really addresses the points I was making. Your OP seems to make the following two points: 1) That current science shows that abiogenesis is impossible (or at least very unlikely), and 2) that evolutionists are disingenuous in saying that problems with abiogenesis are problems for the theory of evolution. If these are not your points then please correct us. Point (1) is false, but my response did not address this, and there are others here who are already attempting to address this. I responded that point (2) is also false -- the theory of evolution relies on evidence that has nothing to do with the origin of life whatsoever. It does not matter how life originated or whether we will ever know how life originated. If you wish to discuss why the origin of life is relevant to the validity of the theory of evolution, then please explain why, and respond to the points in my post. Otherwise, concede that abiogenesis is largely irrelevant to the theory of evolution and we might be able to move on to the other points you wish to discuss. "Intellectually, scientifically, even artistically, fundamentalism -- biblical literalism -- is a road to nowhere, because it insists on fidelity to revealed truths that are not true." -- Katha Pollitt
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DorfMan Member (Idle past 6112 days) Posts: 282 From: New York Joined: |
Do not respond to this post quote: How are your daughters, dude? Please explain to your audience why I would ask about them. And to the people here, if you ignore him, he will go. Most pollutants respond to a bit of soap and water. He will NOT.I know him through another message board. A waste of good time. Burr! This message has been edited by AdminJar, 10-25-2005 06:44 PM
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1436 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Do not respond to this post yep it's ol JJJJ
How are your daughters, dude? Expecting him to respond lustfully? ROFLOL. This message has been edited by AdminJar, 10-25-2005 06:43 PM by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
Do not respond to this post quote: Suddenly I'm interested. This message has been edited by AdminJar, 10-25-2005 06:43 PM "Intellectually, scientifically, even artistically, fundamentalism -- biblical literalism -- is a road to nowhere, because it insists on fidelity to revealed truths that are not true." -- Katha Pollitt
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DorfMan Member (Idle past 6112 days) Posts: 282 From: New York Joined: |
Do not respond to this post quote: Loads of folks have it in for him over that one. So, I expect him to skedaddle.For where I find him I will remind him This message has been edited by AdminJar, 10-25-2005 06:42 PM
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Heathen Member (Idle past 1314 days) Posts: 1067 From: Brizzle Joined: |
Do not respond to this post dorfman writes: Loads of folks have it in for him over that one anyone care to elaborate? This message has been edited by AdminJar, 10-25-2005 06:42 PM
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AdminJar Inactive Member |
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
Quite right. We shouldn't hijack the thread to talk about the personal, um, attributes of other members.
So, I will invite Mirabile_Auditu to discuss the points in the opening post. In particular, I would like to verify that his points were: (1) that science has proven that abiogenesis is impossible or very unlikely, and (2) that evolutionists are disengenuous in refusing to link abiogenesis to the theory of evolution. I would especially like him to comment on my response to the second point. "Intellectually, scientifically, even artistically, fundamentalism -- biblical literalism -- is a road to nowhere, because it insists on fidelity to revealed truths that are not true." -- Katha Pollitt
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1436 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
do a google on "spiderMBA" and read this "person" in his own language on other boards.
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Dr Jack Member Posts: 3514 From: Immigrant in the land of Deutsch Joined: Member Rating: 9.2 |
You know, RAZD, I think it's extremely bad form to drag any posters record from elsewhere onto this board. If he's bad as you say he is, it will quickly become apparent but he should be allowed to make his own impressions here without you heckling him.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1436 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
have at it then.
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DorfMan Member (Idle past 6112 days) Posts: 282 From: New York Joined: |
quote: I agree with that. Children may be told not to touch the fire, but until they know how it feels, they don't know how it feels. LOL A L L efforts to include this man in reasoned discussion were a failure. To everyone else:We are simply telling of our experience and the scathing insults and malignings at his hands. Aside from that, I have personal issues with him. I hinted at those. If I had wanted to do more, I would have done so.
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mick Member (Idle past 5017 days) Posts: 913 Joined: |
Hi Chiroptera,
As an addendum to your post, I would repeat my previous question:
mick writes: mirabile writes: Darwin's apologists are extremely eager to dissociate themselves from abiogenesis. Could you give me some examples from the scientific literature Furthermore I would like Mirabile to give me some examples of biologists who are studying abiogenesis but reject evolutionary theory. Mick
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iano Member (Idle past 1972 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: |
Mirabile writes: Meanwhile after only a few exchanges here, I find the arrogant condescension of the "EVOLUTIONISTS" offensive and inappropriate, but wholly consistent with the ongoing debate. C'mon Mirabile, lighten up. They're not a bad bunch here and the fundi slights are just displays of weaknesses employed when arguments don't stand completely by themselves...and should be recognised as such. Sure... it's something we all do from time to time. Do stick around though, it'll be fun observing the responses to some of your arguments - which to this evo novice - seem informed
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