Faith, you really just don't get it.
about how the existence of life can't be improbable or impossible considering that life in fact does exist
It is really totally and completely, boringnly irrelevant what the probability is or was, because it is a fact that life exists.
Therefore, if it happened by abiogenesis it beat the odds (or was assisted along the way). If it didn't happen by abiogenesis, then the probability had absolutely nothing to do with it. Either way same end result: observed reality, regardless of the probability.
falsely imputing that claim to your opponent's probability model
What I showed was that the "opponent's probability model" in question was full of logical and mathematical errors and unstated assumptions and ignored whole segments of possibility that a valid model would include.
All that the extremely bad (if not dishonest) model argument shows to me is that the person(s) making such an extremely bad (if not dishonest) argument (for whatever reason) are not credible sources for trustworthy information.
It certainly does not "prove" that abiogenesis happened. Just that the calculation that were made are invalid.
The real probability for abiogenesis is not known. It could be 1 in a billion, a really easy case to realize given the size and expanse of time in the universe. We don't know. We won't really even begin to hope of having a clue until we find other life on other planets (or moons).
How do you justify such deceitfulness?
The deceitfulness that I see is in the misrepresentations of what I have said.
Personaly I see a universe intentionally primed for life with a maximized diversity of environments, of which we just happen to be one ... but that is a separate issue.
Would it kill you to be wrong?
Not on my own mistakes: I have been, and have owned up. This is not the case here.
The best you have is a word usage that may be loose, but the meaning is not changed, the argument is not changed, the result is not changed, and the idiocy of going on
ad nauseum over it is not changed.
If that is a victory for you, then by all means break out the band wagon and light the fire-crackers.
Excuse me if I don't get excited by someone who cannot understand the argument and then calls me a liar based on that misunderstanding: I have clarified what I meant several times and I have better things to do than waste any more time on this idiocy.
Enjoy.
This message has been edited by RAZD, 10*09*2005 01:33 AM
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