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Author Topic:   Transhumanism vs. Natural Selection: Playing God in the post-Darwinian era?
RAZD
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Message 32 of 33 (246258)
09-25-2005 8:48 AM
Reply to: Message 17 by uvscfan
07-10-2005 11:15 PM


Cognitive ability vs creativity in selection
uvscfan writes:
the impact it might have on the evolution of the species since the groups with the lowest IQ's are reproducing at a much higher rate than those with the highest IQ's.
All this shows is that {intelligence} is not a sexual selection feature or one that is consistently selected for across the population base.
We already knew this from observing the types of people that {teens\young adults} are attracted to: pop-stars are generally not known for their intelligence, and {scientists\intellectuals} do not (by and large) have groupies.
We also know that {beauty} is not specifically selected for, because experiments have shown that the most (judged) beautiful {faces\people} are computer composites that average the features of many people even whey they are not {beautiful} to begin with. What we call {beauty} then is nothing more than a template for {average}, a means of driving the population towards stasis in evolution. Also, movie stars are not particularly known for their intelligence, and {scientists\intellectuals} do not (by and large) have fan clubs.
What these {selection icons} have in common is {apparent creativity}.
Welcome to the fray, and enjoy.
This message has been edited by RAZD, 09*25*2005 08:50 AM

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RAZD
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Message 33 of 33 (246262)
09-25-2005 9:01 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by dsv
06-12-2005 8:14 PM


Intelligent Design, coming soon to a needle near you?
Interesting topic and discussion, even if it is getting side-tracked a little by {intelligence\racism} issues.
What I see is an increasing trend to use intelligent design on ourselves -- real intelligent design, based on goals and full evaluation of alternatives, and the increasing possibility of making actual direct changes to genes.
And of course when this occurs (1) there will be an observable difference between the effects of design and what the "neo-paleyists" claim, and (2) the {all change is bad} crowd will be vocal in opposition.
For instance, there is talk of making viruses that will improve resistance to diseases or fix certain genetic errors (diabetes, sickle-cell, etc).
Enjoy.

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