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randman 
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Message 1 of 7 (235713)
08-22-2005 8:16 PM


Percy, what I envision and it was my post is we limit the topic to criticisms of evolution and some rebuttals which may demand alternative answers, but are more focussed on defending evolution, not make the thread about the different forms of creationism and ID except as they arise in the thread.
So the evo posts a critique of ToE, and I and/or some non-evos respond with the arguments for ToE. That way the topic is about ToE and various criticims of it.
I am not that interested in attacking YECism, except in this context, and partly because I don't know enough about it.
The thread is meant to be about how well non-evos understand ToE, and how well evos understand the criticisms of ToE, not necessarily all the various models out there in toto.
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Message 3 of 7 (235905)
08-23-2005 9:51 AM
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I don't see IDers and creationists doing that at all
I don't see that at all, but the topic needs to remain somewhat narrow for sake of brevity, and the claim by evos is that critics of ToE do so based on ignorance.
Imo, it's the other way around.

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08-23-2005 10:21 AM
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Re: I don't see IDers and creationists doing that at all
And if you agree that it is important to develop alternative theories when challenging existing theories, then why did you rail on about not caring about what Kuhn said about this a while back?
You are missing the point. I don't think it's necessary to develop an alternative theory to recognize the weaknesses and error of an existing one.
In terms of creationist and ID scientists, you are falsely maligning them since they do a great deal of work developing models and doing research.

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