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Rahvin
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Message 3 of 81 (233748)
08-16-2005 3:44 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Tal
08-16-2005 3:02 PM


While it's easy to agree that this has the potential to be a hugely important find...
It still wouldn't prove anything regarding the Bible.
Many fiction authors today write stories that involve real ypeople, real locations. None of them are true.
If this is David's Palace, that's great, but in no way does it "prove the Bible" to be true. After all, Jerusalem exists - but just because the Bible talks about it doesn't make the Bible true.

Every time a fundy breaks the laws of thermodynamics, Schroedinger probably kills his cat.

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Message 9 of 81 (233773)
08-16-2005 4:44 PM
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08-16-2005 3:57 PM


yes, and no. it doesn't prove the bible is accurate -- but it CAN prove something: it could concievably prove that king david was a real person. it wouldn't prove the accuracy of the information in accounts by any means -- but it would be more than we have right now.
currently, there is very little indication that king david even was a real person. we have one stone which mentions the name of the family of david, but that's about it.
finding his court would be an immense step forward in showing that the book of samuel is at least BASED on real people/events and not totally fictitious.
Yes, it could verify that David was an actual person.
I took this:
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historical evidence (if it proves beyond doubt to be true) in support of the bible.
to mean more than Tal intended, apparently. If this find is confirmed to be what they think it is, then one more person in the Bible would have a historical basis in fact.
My point was that, historical basis for certain stories or not, individual archeological finds cannot prove the Bible as a whole to be historically accurate. We have far too many examples of historical inaccuracy for that.
I apoligize for misunderstanding.

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Message 31 of 81 (234077)
08-17-2005 11:53 AM
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08-17-2005 8:34 AM


Re: Flash: Moses` Tablets found
LOL, I love you guys. An Archeologist finds a huge palace that she says is King David's palace, and you pull a strawman about moses' tablets!
Yet when another Archeologist finds a piece of a skull the evolutionary world has collective orgasms and shouts to the mountain top how this little piece of bone will "change the way we think about evolution."
Tal, you're analogy doesn't work.
An archeologist has found a structure that dates to around the supposed time of David. There is no evidence so far that it is a palace, and even if it is, there is no evidence thus far that it is the palace of the biblical David.
This would be on the same level as an evolutionist finding a femur and concluding, without first investigating the find beyond a simple dating, that it obviously belonged to the common ancestor shared by man and ape, with no actual evidence to support such a claim.
The scientific community would react much the same way people in this thread have - once people realize that there is no evidence beyond the existance of a bone of indeterminate origin (like this structure of indeterminate purpose and origin), and the fact that it dates to an appropriate time period, the find will be dismissed until such time as evidence arises in support of the overblown claims.

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Message 37 of 81 (234095)
08-17-2005 12:33 PM
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08-17-2005 12:08 PM


Re: Flash: Moses` Tablets found
I'm curious, what evidence would need to be uncovered to convince you that is was King David's palace?
Well, finding a document or tablet with his name on it inside the structure would go a long way. Something matching any known descriptions of the palace would help.
Basically anything more than "It's a big man-made structure that dates to around the time we think David may have lived, assuming he was real."

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