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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1374 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
Nothing found at the site offers any indication that David existed. The only link is the dating - itself very uncertain at the time the article was written. yes, a very good point. the person who found it seems to think it's david's court. but nobody else does, including the person who wrote the article, i think. finding a palace from the 10th century br in jerusalem and concluding it's david's just because you've read samuel is a mighty jump in logic. and then saying that it's proof of david is circular: the assumption is that it's david's. assumptions are not proof.
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LauraG Inactive Member |
They found a palace, and it's a pretty great find, but how do they know it's King David's? Are they just going on dating, or is there something in the find that verifies it's King David's palace independent of the stories in the bible?
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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1374 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
as far as i can tell, they're going on the hopes and dreams of one archaeologist.
you're right, it is one thing to find A palace... (welcome to evc btw)
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
Yes, the dating and location is all they have.
I quoted this in the other thread but it's important:
quote: So all we can say was that it was built no earlier than the 12th century and not later than the 9th. The other finds at the site should also be viewed with caution. There have been many forgeries - the fallout from the James Ossuary and the Jehoash tablet uncovered many forgeries - including the ivory pomegranate, which has held to be the one remaining relic of the first Temple. http://www.bibleinterp.com/...es/Cathey_Recent_Forgeries.htm http://www.bibleinterp.com/...ollston_Epigraphic_Forgery.htm
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Tal Member (Idle past 5707 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: |
Excuse me? Not trying to trick anyone there arach. And I answer criticisms. So I'm either cutting/pasting religious fundy posts or I'm ignoring/hiding from issues. Can't seem to make you happy, and after all, that is my goal in life.
'Now isn't it amazing. I tell you that nobody made a simple toy like that (solar system model) and you don't believe me. Yet you gaze out into the solar System - the intricate marvelous machine that is around you - and you dare say to me that no one made that. I don't believe it'. -Sir Isaac Newton
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Monk Member (Idle past 3954 days) Posts: 782 From: Kansas, USA Joined: |
I don't think it is fair... Not fair? As I said, it was an analogy. The discovery, if shown to be true, adds to the credibility of the Bible.
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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1374 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
So I'm either cutting/pasting religious fundy posts or I'm ignoring/hiding from issues. seems like an accurate portrayal. btw, you never responded to my criticism of "iraq is only as deadly as detroit" which you copied and pasted several months ago. as for this:
Excuse me? Not trying to trick anyone there arach. you obviously are. the title of this thread is "King David's Palace Found." the article you cite neither indicates that there is any evidence that it's *A* palace, let alone proof of king david existing. your title is misleading -- there is no evidence that king david's palace HAS been found. This message has been edited by arachnophilia, 08-16-2005 07:06 PM
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Deut. 32.8 Inactive Member |
Tal writes:
More accurately, it confirms the Bible as a collection of myth, poetry, folk history, legend, political propaganda, and theocratic code. But no amount of such confirmation renders the Exodus/Conquest narrative anything other than fable. Why do you people keep reading that I am citing these things as making the bible true? I'm not, and it doesn't. What it is though, is evidence that supports the bible's historical accuracy. The ranks of "Biblical Archaeology" have become increasingly polarized. On the one side stand the minimalists, those who see that Tanach as having little or no historical value. On the other side are the so-called "maximalists", those who argue that the Tanach reflects history no matter how poorly. One of the more vocal of the maximalists is William Dever. Though not one of my favorite resources, it's interesting to read his view of the "historical accuracy" of the Bible ...
quote:There is, by the way, a third group of so-called archaeologists. These are the doctrine-driven Judeo-Christians committed to making their facts conform to their theology. About them Dever writes ... quote: Mazar's work on "King David's Palace" may well prove interesting, even very interesting, but nothing more. This message has been edited by Deut. 32.8, 08-16-2005 09:30 PM
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
William Dever writes: Virtually the last archaeological word was written by me.... Not exactly modest, is he?
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ramoss Member (Idle past 642 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
Actually, they don't even know that it is a palace. It was a public building, but I from what I read, they don't know if it is palace yet.
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Monk Member (Idle past 3954 days) Posts: 782 From: Kansas, USA Joined: |
More accurately, it confirms the Bible as a collection of myth, poetry, folk history, legend, political propaganda, and theocratic code. But no amount of such confirmation renders the Exodus/Conquest narrative anything other than fable. How does the Mazar discovery confirm Biblical myth? You seem to close the door on any future archaeological investigation and that if future investigations were conducted, any discoveries should be summarily dismissed without examination. Per your Dever article, Virtually the last archaeological word was written by me more than 20 years ago for a basic handbook of biblical studies... So that’s it, the last word has been written, end of discussion? C’mon, that sort of close mindedness is what I’ve come to expect from hard core fundies. Rational minds will not discount archaeological information without critical review just because some hold the opinion that, the last word has already been written.
Mazar's work on "King David's Palace" may well prove interesting, even very interesting, but nothing more. What does that mean?
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LauraG Inactive Member |
arachnophilia --> (welcome to evc btw)
Thanks. I've been lurking for a while and I thought I'd get my foot wet with a short post.
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AdminNosy Administrator Posts: 4754 From: Vancouver, BC, Canada Joined: |
Hi LauraG,
I've noticed you lurking for somedays and was considering a first; welcoming someone before they posted -- just for fun. Now, welcome in a more conventional fashion. Give us all hell.
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Nighttrain Member (Idle past 4024 days) Posts: 1512 From: brisbane,australia Joined: |
Put together money, reputations on the line, the improving quality of forgeries, mix with fundy lust, especially the desire to prove Israel is the Promised Land, and folk just might be tempted to turn up The Tablets. Surely they wouldn`t do that? Would they? Nah-----
Side thought: how come Ron Wyatt didn`t recover the Tabs?
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Tal Member (Idle past 5707 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: |
LOL, I love you guys. An Archeologist finds a huge palace that she says is King David's palace, and you pull a strawman about moses' tablets!
Yet when another Archeologist finds a piece of a skull the evolutionary world has collective orgasms and shouts to the mountain top how this little piece of bone will "change the way we think about evolution." Oh, to the point. Nighttrain, meet Strawman. 'Now isn't it amazing. I tell you that nobody made a simple toy like that (solar system model) and you don't believe me. Yet you gaze out into the solar System - the intricate marvelous machine that is around you - and you dare say to me that no one made that. I don't believe it'. -Sir Isaac Newton
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