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Topic: King David's Palace Found
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Tal
Member (Idle past 5707 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: 12-29-2004
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Message 1 of 81 (233726)
08-16-2005 3:02 PM
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New York Times
Eilat Mazar, an Israeli archaeologist, stood amid the ruins of a huge public building of the 10th century B.C. that she believes may be the remains of King David's palace in a biblical Jewish capital.
This is obviously a huge find and another historical evidence (if it proves beyond doubt to be true) in support of the bible.
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Tal
Member (Idle past 5707 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: 12-29-2004
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Message 6 of 81 (233756)
08-16-2005 4:00 PM
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Reply to: Message 3 by Rahvin
08-16-2005 3:44 PM
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If this is David's Palace, that's great, but in no way does it "prove the Bible" to be true. After all, Jerusalem exists - but just because the Bible talks about it doesn't make the Bible true. Why do you people keep reading that I am citing these things as making the bible true? I'm not, and it doesn't. What it is though, is evidence that supports the bible's historical accuracy. And yes, arach is right, this should be in bible accuracy and innerancy. I neglected to put that in the OP because it is a spin off topic from the pool.
'Now isn't it amazing. I tell you that nobody made a simple toy like that (solar system model) and you don't believe me. Yet you gaze out into the solar System - the intricate marvelous machine that is around you - and you dare say to me that no one made that. I don't believe it'. -Sir Isaac Newton
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Tal
Member (Idle past 5707 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: 12-29-2004
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Excuse me? Not trying to trick anyone there arach. And I answer criticisms. So I'm either cutting/pasting religious fundy posts or I'm ignoring/hiding from issues. Can't seem to make you happy, and after all, that is my goal in life.
'Now isn't it amazing. I tell you that nobody made a simple toy like that (solar system model) and you don't believe me. Yet you gaze out into the solar System - the intricate marvelous machine that is around you - and you dare say to me that no one made that. I don't believe it'. -Sir Isaac Newton
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Tal
Member (Idle past 5707 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: 12-29-2004
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Re: Flash: Moses` Tablets found
LOL, I love you guys. An Archeologist finds a huge palace that she says is King David's palace, and you pull a strawman about moses' tablets! Yet when another Archeologist finds a piece of a skull the evolutionary world has collective orgasms and shouts to the mountain top how this little piece of bone will "change the way we think about evolution." Oh, to the point. Nighttrain, meet Strawman.
'Now isn't it amazing. I tell you that nobody made a simple toy like that (solar system model) and you don't believe me. Yet you gaze out into the solar System - the intricate marvelous machine that is around you - and you dare say to me that no one made that. I don't believe it'. -Sir Isaac Newton
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Tal
Member (Idle past 5707 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: 12-29-2004
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Re: Flash: Moses` Tablets found
More Strawmen, keep em coming.
'Now isn't it amazing. I tell you that nobody made a simple toy like that (solar system model) and you don't believe me. Yet you gaze out into the solar System - the intricate marvelous machine that is around you - and you dare say to me that no one made that. I don't believe it'. -Sir Isaac Newton
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Tal
Member (Idle past 5707 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: 12-29-2004
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Strawman it was...
You are trying to contradict point DP (David's Palace). You presented point BO (Bogus Oshuary) as an argument that finds are bogus wich implies you think DP is bogus. Your strawman was implied, just like Moses' Tablets. But I do agree that no conclusions can be drawn yet. Let's see what comes of it.
'Now isn't it amazing. I tell you that nobody made a simple toy like that (solar system model) and you don't believe me. Yet you gaze out into the solar System - the intricate marvelous machine that is around you - and you dare say to me that no one made that. I don't believe it'. -Sir Isaac Newton
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Tal
Member (Idle past 5707 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: 12-29-2004
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Re: forgeries and bias
at best it's politically and religiously biased. at worst, it's outright political. At best it is true. At worst, it is false.
"War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill
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Tal
Member (Idle past 5707 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: 12-29-2004
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Message 62 of 81 (234434)
08-18-2005 10:07 AM
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Reply to: Message 61 by Theodoric
08-18-2005 9:06 AM
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Re: forgeries and bias
Off Topic? In response, I don't care.
"War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill
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Tal
Member (Idle past 5707 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: 12-29-2004
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Message 64 of 81 (234476)
08-18-2005 12:12 PM
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Reply to: Message 63 by Theodoric
08-18-2005 11:44 AM
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Re: forgeries and bias
I've already bowed to some linguini spined peacenicks who didn't like the graphics I had in my signature when I first came to this forum. I took it out. As to the text that is my signature, it is going to be whatever I want within the rules of the forums. If I happen to come across something else that I want as my signature, I'll change it. This message has been edited by Tal, 08-18-2005 12:18 PM
"War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill
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Tal
Member (Idle past 5707 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: 12-29-2004
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Re: forgeries and bias
For the 4th time. Off topic. I don't care.
"War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill
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Tal
Member (Idle past 5707 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: 12-29-2004
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Re: forgeries and bias
the statement, premature of facts, i mean. personally, i think it would be awesome if it really was king david's palace. but i'd like that based on evidence, not whimsy. The way archeology works is like this: Archeologist says, "I think X (artifact, bones, building etc) is in place Y based on historical evidence A, B, or Q. So if they find something that looks similiar to X in place Y, they have a pretty good idea that they've found what they are looking for, because after all, they are digging in 1 spot in a 52 Million square mile area (the land mass of the 6 continents on the earth). So they use ancient documents (manuscripts, stone tablets ect) and make educated guesses as to the location of whatever it is they are looking for (a tomb of a pharoh?). If they find something that looks like what they are looking for at that location, they can safely assume that they've found it. Of course they continue to dig and research to either verify or disprove that it was what they were looking for.
"War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill
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Tal
Member (Idle past 5707 days) Posts: 1140 From: Fort Bragg, NC Joined: 12-29-2004
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Message 70 of 81 (234862)
08-19-2005 2:36 PM
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Reply to: Message 69 by Theodoric
08-19-2005 11:31 AM
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Re: forgeries and bias
actually that isn't how archaeology works. At times they are looking for something particular, but usually artifacts are found and then a dig is planned to determine exactly what is on the site. Yes, that is one way archeology works.
Page not found - Archaeological Institute of AmericaAnother common way to find sites is through survey. In this case, archaeologists actively search areas for sites in areas that were likely to support human populations, or in places where old documents and records indicate people once lived. Old records and maps often talk about communities and settlements that do not exist today. Archaeologists physically walk over these areas looking for any evidence of human occupation, such as pieces of pottery. By the way what historical evidence did she use to determine to dig there for David's palace. The bible This message has been edited by Tal, 08-19-2005 02:37 PM
"War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill
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