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Author Topic:   Why Won't Creationists Learn?
Phat
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Message 7 of 59 (232312)
08-11-2005 1:43 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by CK
08-11-2005 1:39 PM


I will agree with the basic premise, here. I would say, however, that on the flipside, it is pointless to argue with a non-believer (in God) about the meaning of Biblical texts. They simply do not get it because they do not know Him. Just as I do not know geology, so why argue with a geologist. I do not know physics so why argue with a physicist??

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Message 15 of 59 (232384)
08-11-2005 3:31 PM
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But what if the spiritual IS the factual? In other words, you cannot theoretically explain a God in whom you do not believe. All you CAN do is explain (or attempt to explain) the human side of it. The Bible can be seen in the context of an ancient bit of writings from human perspectives and experiences of the day that they were written or spoken. The belief behind the book, however is the character of the book....who is Jesus Christ. OT or NT, Jesus Christ is the character behind the book.
Some would assert that this is merely opinion that can easily be dismissed with context. What they are doing, however, is originating the context with the humans who transcribed the book. The context that I am talking about is the God behind and above all humanity. We are talking apples and oranges. You see human wisdom as the origin of truth. I see God as the origin of truth. Its the chicken and the egg. Which came first? God who created humans or humans who made up god stories? We will not soon agree on this one!

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Message 20 of 59 (232411)
08-11-2005 4:07 PM
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08-11-2005 3:55 PM


OK...good point. Point taken

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