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Author Topic:   Get To Know God (GTKG) 101
dsv
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Message 6 of 46 (214501)
06-05-2005 12:46 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by purpledawn
06-05-2005 10:45 AM


dsv's GTKG Step 1
When you say "Get to Know God" are you talking about the concept of "God" in general or specifically the Christian God outlined in the Christian Bible?
"purpledawn" writes:
What is Step 1?
For me, GTKG Step 1 is giving up the preconceived concept of God -- understanding history and the literature and thinking that has gone into the creation of modern religion and realizing it is human. Further, embracing science and technology as pathways to bettering our existence and answering questions about the past, present, and future of our time in the universe.
My God is not a person, a spirit, a wind, a cloud, "love" or any of the other concepts. My God is unknown. It is pre-singularity uncertainty -- the possibility and probability of events.
I don't believe any human book can explain it, nor have we reached a point at which we can understand it -- we may someday.
Science will lead us there.
That's Step 1 for me.
(Let me know when I can continue.)

"Look, the Bible is VERY clear. [...] It warns repeatedly against believing what the 'world' says, what the 'wise' of the world, the philosophers or thinkers of the world say." -- Faith

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dsv
Member (Idle past 4755 days)
Posts: 220
From: Secret Underground Hideout
Joined: 08-17-2004


Message 9 of 46 (214520)
06-05-2005 3:52 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by purpledawn
06-05-2005 1:13 PM


Re: dsv's GTKG Step 1
"purpledawn" writes:
Specifically the God of the Christian Bible.
Ah, well in that case I have no idea.
From what I have been taught, the first step in knowing the Christian God is "giving yourself to Jesus." Your heart and soul. Apparently this includes admitting your sins and such -- like going to Alcoholics Anonymous. However, this implies that believing in Jesus comes before knowing God, which is somewhat backwards it seems.
Like you, I'd be interested in hearing from the believers out there. Specifically perhaps those that have found God/Jesus later in life.
"purpledawn" writes:
Out of curiosity how many steps do you have?
I have no idea actually. I wasn't aware I had a first step until I gave it serious thought thanks to your topic.

"Look, the Bible is VERY clear. [...] It warns repeatedly against believing what the 'world' says, what the 'wise' of the world, the philosophers or thinkers of the world say." -- Faith

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dsv
Member (Idle past 4755 days)
Posts: 220
From: Secret Underground Hideout
Joined: 08-17-2004


Message 15 of 46 (214963)
06-07-2005 9:39 AM
Reply to: Message 12 by redseal
06-07-2005 5:53 AM


Re: dsv's GTKG Step 1
redseal writes:
There is no God "in general;" don't succumb to the illogics of satan; for he will only offer you seductive doctrines that will send you headlong into the pits of Hell. There is only the One Lord God Almighty!
Thanks but I don't need to be directly preached to on EvC. I get that enough from believers in day-to-day life. If you'd like to convert (save?) me or something, you'll have to present your argument using facts and evidence with references, just like anyone at EvC.
Your ownership of God is somewhat arrogant as well. There is, in fact, a concept of God "in general" and it predates your Christian God.
The original topic was asking who your (personally) God was and how one gets to know god. In my case, the "spiritual" center of self -- which doesn't include organized religion. If you would like more information about the origins of monotheism and God "in general" I would be happy to have a discussion with you (although I don't think this is the appropriate topic).

"Look, the Bible is VERY clear. [...] It warns repeatedly against believing what the 'world' says, what the 'wise' of the world, the philosophers or thinkers of the world say." -- Faith

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