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Author Topic:   The Relationship between technology and culture
Vercingetorix 
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Message 25 of 28 (188544)
02-25-2005 4:37 PM


environmental determinalism?
this sounds very close to environmental determinalism at the basic level. be careful while i think it makes sense it isn't socially acceptable. (see Dr. Frederich Ratzel)
If you don't have some method of making written records (preferably portable) then you can't have a complex civil service or tax raising powers. If you don't have ploughs and domesticated animals,
what about the aelthing? the 1st european parliment formed in the late 9th century CE. the norse didn't have literacy at that time, the aelthing wasn't recorded until the sagas were in the 12th and 13th centuries.
i like environmental determinalism, culture from the environement, and technology/invention from the environment. tropical people were generally more primitive than those of cooler regions because they never had to save food or survive a winter (i realize this is a very basic generalization), but i think it has something to do with the topic at hand.
I think you are partially correct.

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Vercingetorix 
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Message 27 of 28 (188718)
02-26-2005 1:36 PM
Reply to: Message 26 by Tusko
02-26-2005 5:54 AM


Re: environmental determinalism?
I'm intrigued that you say that it isn't socially acceptable - obviously I haven't though it through far enough!
i meant that environmental determinalism isn't socially acceptable. i really like your topic, i was just warning that it could be labeled this way and we need to try and avoid the stigma of enviromental determinalism (ED for now cause its a big word and im being lazy about it).
ED was credited to Dr. Frederick Ratzel. he was a german geographer and anthropologist in the mid-late 19th century. ED states that the enviroment seriously affects how the people who live in it will develop. this leads to a generalisation that people in climates with more seasonality developed more because they had to in order to survive in thier einvironment. more invention took place because more was needed. IMO i think it sounds pretty good, but there were some racists in the 20th century who took it to the extreme. thier leader was adolf hitler and he praised all thing german (including Ratzel), and took alot of ED as evidence of his master race theory.
since that time, IMO for social reasons, ED has been denounced.

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