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Message 150 of 234 (179283)
01-21-2005 10:02 AM


Forum Guidelines Warning
Things aren't too bad right now, but there's an indication that some members may have a prior history at other sites, so before things spin out of control I'd like to request a diminution in making the debate personal or emotional. From the Forum Guidelines:
  1. Respect for others is the rule here. Argue the position, not the person. The Britannica says, "Usually, in a well-conducted debate, speakers are either emotionally uncommitted or can preserve sufficient detachment to maintain a coolly academic approach."
Thank you!

--Percy
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Message 196 of 234 (181332)
01-28-2005 10:36 AM


Forum Guidelines Warning
I am concerned that I am finding too many violations of rule 3 of the Forum Guidelines:
  1. Respect for others is the rule here. Argue the position, not the person. The Britannica says, "Usually, in a well-conducted debate, speakers are either emotionally uncommitted or can preserve sufficient detachment to maintain a coolly academic approach."
The responsibility for following the guidelines lies with members. The responsibility for enforcing the guidelines and noting violations lies soley with moderators. Not liking someone's approach or tone is not a license for violating the guidelines. The sole judge of whether something constitutes a violation is a moderator. Members should not set themselves up as both debater and moderator.
I'm not going to be specific at this time, so I won't answer questions. Anyone wondering whether the impetus behind this message was due to anything they posted should go back and reread their own messages.

--Percy
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Message 229 of 234 (186140)
02-17-2005 10:07 AM
Reply to: Message 214 by Hydroplate Hippie
02-16-2005 12:18 PM


Re: Forum Guidelines Warning
Hydroplate Hippie writes:
Admin Director writes:
The responsibility for enforcing the guidelines and noting violations lies soley with moderators.
Percy, are you are implying that members are prohibited from noting particularly poor debate techniques such as attacking the person — not the problem? If an individual persists in mindless attacks and wasting everyone’s time, then it seems appropriate to refer them to a site where those tactics are in vogue and expected (Michael Moore | Substack).
Prohibited from noting possible guideline violations? No, of course not. But on the other hand, moderators do not want to see it used as a rhetorical device to dismiss valid arguments.
Members should not set themselves up as judge and jury. If you feel you're the victim of a guidelines violation, seek moderator assistance. One guidelines violation does not justify another guidelines violation in response. If you feel someone's response is violating the Forum Guidelines, then either don't respond or ask for moderator help. Responding in kind will get you in trouble.
Removed extraneous comment. --Admin
This message has been edited by Admin, 02-17-2005 15:38 AM

--Percy
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