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JonF
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Message 61 of 160 (174760)
01-07-2005 2:43 PM
Reply to: Message 55 by Percy
01-07-2005 11:39 AM


OT: Man as old as coal!!!!!!!!!!
Carl also has a fossilized human finger. It *is* a remarkable coincidence that a naturally formed rock could resemble a human finger, but nothing more
I can't resist ... Man as old as coal!. But see also Carboniferous human bones -- an evaluation.
(Ed's no creationist and believes an old Earth, BTW).

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berberry
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Message 62 of 160 (174768)
01-07-2005 2:59 PM
Reply to: Message 55 by Percy
01-07-2005 11:39 AM


Re: Say What?
Percy writes:
quote:
Carl also has a fossilized human finger. It *is* a remarkable coincidence that a naturally formed rock could resemble a human finger, but nothing more. At one point in the tour of Luray Caverns in Virginia you'll see two fossilized fried eggs side-by-side sunny-side up. The resemblance isn't just remarkable, it's amazing, but they're not fossilized eggs, they're just natural formations.
And they're not even all that rare. Go to most any gem and mineral show and you'll see a display of "dinner plates" featuring such delicacies as roast beef, mashed potatoes, english peas, rolls and even jello for dessert. All rocks, of course, but they do look yummy!

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nator
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Message 63 of 160 (174771)
01-07-2005 3:01 PM
Reply to: Message 55 by Percy
01-07-2005 11:39 AM


Re: Say What?
quote:
Religion is a fertile field for charlatans. Crying statues, Jesus images on windows, faith healing, the list just goes on and on.
Let's not forget the partially eaten grilled cheese sandwich with the high-cheekboned, 1930's starlett-style image of the Virgin Mary on it.
It was on eBay and sold for $11,000.
LOL!
People can be so STUPID!
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berberry
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Message 64 of 160 (174774)
01-07-2005 3:07 PM
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01-07-2005 3:01 PM


Re: Say What?
Yeah, I saw that. To me it looked more like Marlene Dietrich in The Garden of Allah.

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Brian
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Message 65 of 160 (174802)
01-07-2005 5:00 PM
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01-07-2005 3:01 PM


Mo Teresa bun!
Or Mutha's bun:

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Percy
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Message 66 of 160 (174807)
01-07-2005 5:20 PM
Reply to: Message 61 by JonF
01-07-2005 2:43 PM


Re: OT: Man as old as coal!!!!!!!!!!
JonF writes:
I can't resist ... Man as old as coal!. But see also Carboniferous human bones -- an evaluation.
(Ed's no creationist and believes an old Earth, BTW).
After reading the two links, what fascinates me most is the psychology of Ed and Ted. They're convinced their rocks contain human bone, and no amount of evidence will persuade them otherwise. That's pretty common around here, too.
It also tells us that if Carl does allow his hammer to be subjected to independent analysis, the results will not affect his museum display or his website.
--Percy

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RAZD
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Message 67 of 160 (174858)
01-07-2005 7:40 PM
Reply to: Message 63 by nator
01-07-2005 3:01 PM


Re: Say What?
LOL
partially eaten grilled cheese sandwich with the high-cheekboned, 1930's starlett-style image of the Virgin Mary on it.
It was on eBay and sold for $11,000.
time to get cooking peeps, there's money to be made in them thar hills!
of course they have to be pictures of the virgin or ma teressa or they wouldn't be miracles right?
a bun that looks like ((any old person)) is just mildly interesting ...
heh. I wonder if these people know that gullible is not in the dictionary ...

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edge
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Message 68 of 160 (174907)
01-07-2005 9:46 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by Buzsaw
01-06-2005 10:51 PM


Re: Say What?
quote:
?? I'm not sure I understand your question. Any sample from a coal mine would logically be collected by a coal miner if by "collected," you mean acquired. If a miner brought me a chunk of coal from his mine with a cup securely embedded in it, you bet, I'd accept it.
Yep, that's what they count on. There are few better sports among miners, drillers, etc. than to play the college kids for fools. Or the credulous true-believers... My advice to you is: never quit your day job to play poker for a living.

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Buzsaw
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Message 69 of 160 (174921)
01-07-2005 11:16 PM
Reply to: Message 68 by edge
01-07-2005 9:46 PM


Re: Say What?
Yep, that's what they count on. There are few better sports among miners, drillers, etc. than to play the college kids for fools. Or the credulous true-believers... My advice to you is: never quit your day job to play poker for a living.
Look, my point is that no coal mine is gona let Mr. Baugh go down and hunt stuff, nor is Mr. Baugh gona want to spend his time coal mining for artifacts. If anything's gona be found it's gona be found by a miner. I've seen this cup on tv and it's not what a coal miner could concoct up for a joke.
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Tal
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Message 70 of 160 (174935)
01-08-2005 2:04 AM


*EDIT*
I would appreciate it if you would not highjack my thread.
If you would like to start topics on the other objects from his collection, please go start your own thread.
While some of you don't consider this a serious subject, I do, and would appreciate you not posting if you don't have anything meaningful to add to my topic.
Now bugger off.
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PaulK
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Message 71 of 160 (174949)
01-08-2005 3:40 AM
Reply to: Message 69 by Buzsaw
01-07-2005 11:16 PM


Re: Say What?
Since every report of an item like this that I've ever heard of is from the 19th Century or early 20th I rather doubt that the provenance of this cup is as simple as a miner finding it and giving or selling it to Carl Baugh.

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berberry
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Message 72 of 160 (174950)
01-08-2005 3:49 AM
Reply to: Message 70 by Tal
01-08-2005 2:04 AM


Tal, if I may butt in here, I'd like to ask that you please use the 'Reply' button at the bottom right-hand of the message when you post a direct response like this one. Use the 'Gen Reply' button at the bottom of the page only for introducing new material not dependent on any previous post.
Posting in this way insures that anyone reading the thread can tell instantly what message you're responding to. It can be difficult for a reader to follow the chain of conversation when this rule isn't observed.

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Buzsaw
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Message 73 of 160 (175087)
01-08-2005 7:17 PM
Reply to: Message 72 by berberry
01-08-2005 3:49 AM


Re: Cup/Hammer Connection
Tal, if I may butt in here, I'd like to ask that you please use the 'Reply' button..........
Thanks Berberry. I assume Tal was referring to the cup thing, but not sure. Tal, if you were referring to the cup in coal, it is topic related in that it shows that the hammer is not the only similar type artifact Baugh has, for the cup is his also. By showing this to be the case, it may lend some credence to the hammer, if the cup can be authenticated, or vise versa.
Yes, it is important that you use the reply button of the post you're responding to. Thanks.

In Jehovah God's Universe, time, energy and boundless space had no beginning and will have no ending. It is, has always been and forever will be intelligently designed, changed and managed by his providence. buzsaw

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Buzsaw
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Message 74 of 160 (175088)
01-08-2005 7:22 PM
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01-08-2005 3:40 AM


Re: Say What?
Since every report of an item like this that I've ever heard of is from the 19th Century or early 20th I rather doubt that the provenance of this cup is as simple as a miner finding it and giving or selling it to Carl Baugh.
Can you cite a couple of examples of what you are referring to in order that we may compare them to Baughs hammer and cup?

In Jehovah God's Universe, time, energy and boundless space had no beginning and will have no ending. It is, has always been and forever will be intelligently designed, changed and managed by his providence. buzsaw

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edge
Member (Idle past 1736 days)
Posts: 4696
From: Colorado, USA
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Message 75 of 160 (175100)
01-08-2005 8:31 PM
Reply to: Message 69 by Buzsaw
01-07-2005 11:16 PM


Not the point...
quote:
Look, my point is that no coal mine is gona let Mr. Baugh go down and hunt stuff, nor is Mr. Baugh gona want to spend his time coal mining for artifacts. If anything's gona be found it's gona be found by a miner. I've seen this cup on tv and it's not what a coal miner could concoct up for a joke.
And the Cretaceous hammer was real too, eh. Until the the story developed more holes than a boatload of Swiss cheese... So, then, bring us a picture of the cup. I'd like to see this artifact.
And my point is, and it should be a red flag to you, that virtually all of these 'artifacts' have dubious origins, and were not scientifically vetted in the field. I don't care about excuses, the point is that we cannot verify their authenticity by qualified researchers.

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