To the creationists - the tough question

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Originally posted by Val:
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There are many contradictions in the bible to how to evolutionary concepts.Adam and Eve is one for instance.They were not conceived from apes,in fact one was created from another.
Val

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The ToE does not claim that humans were "conceived from apes", so this is a false representation of evolution. The ToE claims that apes and humans had a common ancestor, and this is the reason we see so much morphological, social, and (especially) genetic similarities betweenhumans and other primates.I suggest that you really cannot point to the Bible story of Adam and Eve and say "See? That's evidence which falsifies science!"You are free to believe Bible stories, but your belief in Bible stories as reality has no effect on Biology.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by TrueCreation:
[b]"To me, evolution is evolution. Micro-evolution is evolution over a short time period. Macro-evolution is evolution over a longer time period."
--I would have to say that here is your problem, Micro evolution isn't evolution over any period of time, neither is macro evolution, it is the amount of change, in which all we see today in our micro evolution is a devolving process, we are all slowely getting worse, loosing things, not gaining, to say that all of the dogs of the world have a common ancestor and it is a dog is revolving around ;micro evoution' or variation of kinds into species. The chuawa probley was not here 500 years ago, it is on the shallow end of the gene pool, any more change to that poor thing and it will mean bad news, and possibly extinction, as too is the cheetah. To say that the Dog and say iguana, or the horse are related, or as kent hovind puts it, related to the bananna, that is taking the leap of faith into macro-evolution.[/QUOTE]Then how do you explain the shared genes, especially pseudogenes, between species?

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"What I am trying to deal with here is the fact of evolution; that it happened whether by the mechanisms of the theory of evolution, or through devine creation and/or guidence."
--Then we have no argument, I would have to say that evolution happens, but not to the macro scale as you so believe.

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What is the mechanism that prevents many micro-changes from accumulating to a macro change?

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"My defination of evolution is that the nature of the populations of the earth has changed down through time. As time passes, some species go extinct, while other new species appear."
--Then there is no argument, you are right, 'species' change, and variate, all throughout time....about 6000 years. And some species go extinct and other new 'species' are produced by variation of their kind.

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Please explain what positive scientific evidence exists which indicates that the Earth is 6,000 years old.You will, at the very least, have to explain how EACH of the dozen or so dating methods we currently use are all severely flawed.Define what "kind" means in a scientific sense. IOW, how do I tell one "kind" from another? If you cannot do this, then it is a meaningless term, scientifically, so should not be used in a scientific debate.