To the creationists - the tough question

What sort of evidence would you find convincing enough to sway you into believing that organic evolution was and is real?Think the question over carefully, and try to be as concise as possible.Moose------------------
Old Earth evolution - Yes
Godly creation - Maybe

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TrueCreation: Define evolution? Is this evolution as to micro-evolution? Macro-evolution? Speciation, simple change, evolution with a lowercase 'e'? Or is it Evolution with a capital 'E', as I see as a good analogy. Define this evolution you wan't us to prove anything of?

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To me, evolution is evolution. Micro-evolution is evolution over a short time period. Macro-evolution is evolution over a longer time period.Elsewhere I have pointed out that the 1)Fact of evolution, and 2)Theory of evolution are two seperate things.What I am trying to deal with here is the fact of evolution; that it happened whether by the mechanisms of the theory of evolution, or through devine creation and/or guidence.My defination of evolution is that the nature of the populations of the earth has changed down through time. As time passes, some species go extinct, while other new species appear.Moose------------------
Old Earth evolution - Yes
Godly creation - Maybe

Restating the topic:To the creationists - the tough questionI can't over emphasize my serious intent of using that title. I do recognize that it is indeed a tough question, for a creationist (anti-evolutionist) to supply an honest answer.Respectfully,
Moose------------------
Old Earth evolution - Yes
Godly creation - Maybe

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Originally posted by Percipient:
I thought Creationists didn't have a problem with evolution per se, just with evolution between kinds.
--Percy

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As I see it, the geologic record has clearly shown a progression of "kinds" as having appeared and gone extinct, as time has passed. This is the "fact" of evolution.This, in itself, makes no comment on why and how the new appearances happened. The cause behind the fact of evolution could be God's creation process, the processes of the theory of evolution, or some combination of the two.I think it is possible for a creationist to accept this fact of evolution without accepting the theory of evolution.Moose------------------
Old Earth evolution - Yes
Godly creation - MaybeAdded by edit 1/5/02, c. 4:00pm EST:It seems pointless to debate the mechanisms of the theory of evolution (TOE), if the fact of evolution is not first accepted.
Are the creationists, in taking part in the debate over the TOE, in effect conceding the "fact of evolution" as being true?Regards,
Still Moose after all these years

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Originally posted by minnemooseus:
What sort of evidence would you find convincing enough to sway you into believing that organic evolution was and is real?

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Think the question over carefully, and try to be as concise as possible.

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Moose

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I thought it might be time to repeat message 1 of this topic.Still Moose------------------
BS degree, geology, '83
Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U
Old Earth evolution - Yes
Godly creation - Maybe