I agree Lam. But the problem is that most of the real live people JESUS freak will meet, are likely jesus freaks themselves. So high scores on the humiliation front are not to be expected there. Some gentle humbling on this forum just might do the trick. That, and the Socratic method.
Oh, and of course the occasional yelling through Dan Carrol's megaphone.
"It's amazing what you can learn from DNA." - Desdamona.