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Author Topic:   Was Earth Created By God To CLEANSE The Universe Of Evil?
Buzsaw
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Message 1 of 24 (131481)
08-07-2004 11:58 PM


1. Some of this focuses on that tree of the knowledge of good and evil in the garden. Why did God put it there? Could it be that he, being all knowing, knew what would happen, but allowed it to happen for the good of the whole universe?
2. Why did God put it in Eden? A possible answer to this may be because of the mystery of evil in the universe and why it exists. Another factor may be in the matter of free will both on earth and throughout the rest of the universe. Evidently Satan and the angels who rebelled with him had that capacity of free will.
3. Could the reason the forbidden tree was put on earth lie in the fact of evil and the great rebellion of Satan and the multitudes of heavenly angels he deceived into his rebellion.
4. God's remedy to quell this rebellion may be the reason he created the earth in the first place and why the tree was placed in the garden.
Could the answer to the topic question lie in that God was preparing a trap and a [i]battleground[/] for the ultimate demise of the enemy of the universe by creation of planet earth? According to the scriptures this tiny speck in the universe called earth will be where Satan and all his angels will be cast, where he will be ultimately chained and cast into a bottomless pit prison for a thousand years, and where he will eventually be weakened to the point that a strong angel will bind him and cast him into Gehenna, the eternal lake of fire.
What think ye?

The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past. buz

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Buzsaw
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Message 17 of 24 (131955)
08-09-2004 2:34 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Coragyps
08-08-2004 11:41 PM


Umm... it's a pretty large universe out there, Buz. Our planet makes up maybe 0.0001% of our solar system, which makes up maybe 0.0000000001% of our galaxy, which makes up maybe 0.0000000001% of what universe we can currently detect. D'ya really, really think that this electron in an atom in a protein in a hair on the tail wags that whole dog? That seems a pretty arrogant position to take to me.
Good post, Cora, as are most others which I'll try to get to soon.
1, As demonstrated in the OT as well as the NT, God, the majesty of the universe seems to delight in doing big things by using little insignificant things to do the job. Why, Imo, he likes showing the hosts of heaven what he is able to do with so little via soooo much of the power of his mighty multipresent Holy Spirit.
2. Remember, my topic is about saving the universe by means of the earth. I have hypothesised that this tiny dot in the vast universe is what God created to justly end the evil of Satan and his empire. In revelation 12 he is cast to the earth and later cast into the lake of fire.
And my preacher dad always said Gehenna was the Jerusalem city dump, not a lake of fire. The lake is only in Revelations, no? And Gehenna in a gospel somewhere?
That's correct. It was the dump as I understand, but I believe it is used also in reference to the lake of fire. I'll check that out for a reference.

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Buzsaw
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Message 19 of 24 (132131)
08-09-2004 9:08 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by CK
08-09-2004 2:40 PM


So God has an ego problem, that explanation also negates the thrust of your proposal in this thread.
How so?

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Buzsaw
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Message 21 of 24 (132134)
08-09-2004 9:14 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by almeyda
08-08-2004 2:41 AM


The tree was put in to test man. You cant give man freewill by limiting his choice to do wrong, which he did. To choose poorly, which he did. And yes i do believe God knew what would happen. I believe it was part of his plan. To test mankind of every generation until judgement day. To see who would stay faithful and who would choose Satan and evil over God and righteousness. And vice versa. Theres so much to life, so much to enjoy that we forget that God has only one thing on his mind, which is his eternal plan.
So you don't by the idea that he might have a bigger universal picture in mind like doing in Satan and his kingdom when he created the earth?

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Buzsaw
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Message 23 of 24 (135840)
08-20-2004 10:55 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by almeyda
08-10-2004 3:52 AM


I dont understand?
I suggest you go back to my OP and read it carefully. Then if you don't understand my post, let's talk about what is not clear, as my last post was alluding to that OP statement.

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