general relativity

This has actually been demonstrated in historical times by birds introduced to North America, occuring within a 50 year period.See: http://EvC Forum: Differential Dispersal Of Introduced Species - An Aspect of Punctuated Equilibrium
Differential Dispersal Of Introduced Species (Re: Aspect of Punctuated Equilibrium) -- 50 starlings introduced in 1890's and within 50 years they had spread to cover from the east coast to the west coast. The error here is the "like requiring Custer to win at the little Big Horn every day" thinking -- all they need to do is survive to breed, and starlings do that very well.European House Sparrows are similar, but the time period is not as well known, it is less than 150 years, though, and that is still an instant in geological time.There are also other examples that show that such things do not always happen to 'pan out' for the new species (several died out, as would be predicted from an evolution viewpoint)This does, however, show the fallacy of the argument from incredulity (redwolfs forte, and most of the argument presented above): the lack of ability to imagine how a process occurs is no hinderance to the actual process used ... nature has already solved that problem.Truth will beat opinion everytime.{{Added by edit}} As this is offtopic I suggest replies be taken to
EvC Forum: Differential Dispersal Of Introduced Species - An Aspect of Punctuated Equilibrium
Differential Dispersal Of Introduced Species (Re: Aspect of Punctuated Equilibrium)Enjoy.This message has been edited by RAZD, 07-09-2004 08:55 PM

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by our ability to understand RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
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I just realized that this issue raised by redwolf is off topic and should be continued elsewhere.You might also want to keep in mind all the possibilities that Dawkins addressed for those who don't understand evolution.Search | Free Inquiryheh.

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This is the same information he has presented before and which was discussed on http://EvC Forum: Punk Eek for Redwolf -->EvC Forum: Punk Eek for Redwolf

I put those people in the malicious category. I also think the last group Dawkins was talking about should be labeled 'deluded' - and it certainly applies to some I have known.Of the categories given, ignorance is curable, but like the lightbulb being changed by the psychologist, one has to want to change.

commentary that gives an example of dispersal of species across the continent in 50 years from an initial population of 50 birds and in the process completely refutes one of his many "arguments from incredulity" or should I say {inability to imagine how it works in the real world}.Notice that redwolf has refused to reply to my messages -- because he has no answer for them, all he can do is cast snide comments -- and the fact remains that dispersal in a geological instant has occurred within recent times, and it is a well documented fact.This is someone who thinks his opinions are worth selling.ps - do go read bearfabrique, it is good comedy: venus nearly hits the earth? heh.

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we are limited in our ability to understand
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I was introduced to bearfabrique on another board by a creationist poster, using it to counter arguments about annual ice layers. When I questioned him on accepting all of what the articles said he backed off big time and agreed that the posts were mostly wild fantasy.Shows that no-one is completely useless ...
... they can always serve as a bad example ..