Alas, poor Ohio .... EvC related news

Very, very sad. Ohio is taking a grand step back towards the Dark Ages. Hopefully a legal challenge will prevail and Critical Analysis of Evolution will be shoved into the dumpster where it belongs.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

I have no problem with Critical Analysis of Evolution, but the section that they wanted to add on Intellegent Design was called Critical Analysis of Evolution. It was not in reality a critical analysis of evolution, but from the article you supplied, an attempt to bring intellegent design into the discussion.There is no problem with any critical analysis of evolution, or any other part of science. But as soon as you introduce magic and the supernatural, any reasoned analysis goes out the window. With magic as a base for any subject, anything and everything is possible.

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Nonsense. It is a simply acknowledgment of the year. Most everyone, even Jews, used the same dating notations on bill and ladings. It has nothing to do with religion. Of course, it took quite a while longer to knock off those extra days to get in step with the rest of the world.While the folk in Ohio are free to hold any opinions they want, they DO NOT have the right to include and supernatural religious material in the public schools.

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That's why we are not a Democracy, thank GOD.And the Constitution actually says that they Can Not do something like that.If they were to allow teaching in a public, state funded school system that said a GOD designed living things, then that is establishing a state religion. And that, thank God, is a no-no.

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Federal bucks, DS, Federal Bucks.

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Big fan of Mr. Lincoln.But not a clone of Mr. Lincoln.When we use public funds to promote religion though, we are wrong.And allowing creationism or even intellegent design, even though niether could possibly be taken seriously by any reasoning being, is to establish a state religion. There is simply no way to get around that.We are not a Theocracy, thank God. And I will do all I can to make sure the US never becomes a Theocracy.edited to fix spellingThis message has been edited by jar, 06-08-2004 09:34 PM

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It matters not which religion is promoted, only that religion is being promoted.And no, it most certainly does not matter if the majority of the public want it. That's the beauty and the whole point of the Constitution and our political system. Fortunately we are protected from a Tryanny of the Majority.

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Yes, but it has been made particularly difficult. And hopefully, so difficult that the super majority needed will be impossible to attain. A step like that would be the first step towards Theocracy and the destruction of the United States.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

is at the very lowest, most fundamental level. It is possible that the very basic rules, perhaps at the string level but most likely even lower than that, may have been designed. There does appear to be some underlying relationship, some lowest level that we may never reach in understanding, that governs how all matter, energy, time and even intangibles such as thought, behave. I can well imagine that some designer began by speaking those very most basic rules of the game.But after that, there is no indications whatsoever of any hand being involved.

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Demand? No.Allow for the possibility of a designer? Yes.But at anything higher than the lowest levels (and as we learn more that level continues to get shoved further and futher back) there is no sign of or reasonable possibility of designer intervention.

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I remember way back in the late 50's or early 60's when L. Ron outlined just what a monemaker religion could be. IIRC it was in an old Astounding or F&SF. He laid out the groundwork and explained it would be the biggest money maker ever.Guess he was right.

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Ask them?But it would certainly be a suit that most Christians would or should support.DarkStarA lot of the religious oppression forced on the majority by the vocal Christian minority are unfortunately, simply ignored because it is just to easy to give them their way instead of listening to them whine. And whine is one thing they do well.This was the case back in the 50's when we let Under God be added to the Pledge and In God We Trust be added to the currency. The only ones that really suffered were us kids, we had to take time out of our studies every day to relearn the Pledge, to get used to the flow and meter of it being broken by the insertion of two words.The money was the same thing. It was a minor anoyance to quieten a major nusance. Nothing more. Period.Bills still worked at the bar or the ticket counter. Price of hot dogs stayed reasonable. Small loss but great gain. The noise abated.Unfortunately, the Creationists and Intellegent Design folk learned a lot then. They learned that if they whine enough, the majority will give in just to get them to shut up for a while. It has nothing to do with the merits of the issue.It is only noise abatement.

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We can start with adding Under God and In God We Trust to the Pledge and Currency.Then there is the criminal, Roy Moore who simply because of his religious connection was not charged, as he should have been, with malfeasance of office and tried as the criminalb the is.Although it does not effect me, the "Defence of Marriage Act" can only be seen as religious oppression.

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Evolution and science belong in the science classes.Creation myths belong in Religious Studies or Sacred Studies.There is no conflict as long as mythology is kept out of Science Classes.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

But you did not demonstrate anything conclusively.The history of Evolution and the Theory of Evolution are simply taught. It is not based on the rejection of what some few Christians believe. It does not even address what those few Christians might believe or not believe. It is a science, not religion.There is no Science of Creation. There are many creation myths. But everyone (all of them being equally vaid) are simply religion. As such, they can be taught in any religious or theological course even today.You simply have not shown or demonstrated your case.

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