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crashfrog
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Message 32 of 86 (114805)
06-13-2004 7:24 AM
Reply to: Message 31 by custard
06-13-2004 7:11 AM


Well it certainly seems you forgot about him budgeting nearly $3 billion for AIDS research between 1984 and 1989.
I thought you said only Congress has the power of the purse.

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crashfrog
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Message 35 of 86 (114808)
06-13-2004 8:36 AM
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06-13-2004 8:19 AM


Are we going to start playing this game again?
You mean, the game where you make a point that I don't understand and so I ask you for clarification, but you jump up my ass about it? Yeah, I guess we're playing that now.
Pretty cool how that works, eh?
Yeah, that's pretty cool. But if he shares credit for budget success, doesn't he also share blame for budget failure? I presume you agree, but where you said this:
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What else, the budget deficit? The ones the democratic congresses kept passing? That's the argument I love the most. Blame the Chief Executive for federal spending. Sorry, the power of the purse belongs to the legislative branch alone. The President can propose all the budgets he wants, but Congress actually has to pass them in order to spend the money.
it doesn't sound like you do. So I'm a little confused. On one hand you seem pretty eager to insulate the President from any bad budgeting decisions - that's Congress's fault - but on the other, you're pretty quick to make sure we all know about his budget successes.
Maybe I'm an idiot, or you're just not being clear enough, but it sounds like you're trying to praise Reagan with faint damnation, if you catch my drift.
And moreover, the claim isn't that Reagan ignored AIDS - it's that he ignored AIDS at the time he really could have made a difference and stopped an epidemic - i.e. before 1984. What on earth do budget appropriations after that time have anything to do with it?
It's in your neck of the woods and Ann Arbor is a fun little college town.
Um, yeah. Just like Vancouver is in your neck of the woods. Christ, how dumb do you think we are here in Flyover Country?

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crashfrog
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From: Silver Spring, MD
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Message 59 of 86 (115648)
06-16-2004 7:42 AM
Reply to: Message 56 by custard
06-16-2004 5:51 AM


You keep mentioning Bush. Are you rolling in his administration with Reagan's?
I'm pretty sure he's referring to the fact that while Reagan was president, George Bush was vice president. Aka, "the Reagan/Bush administration."

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crashfrog
Member (Idle past 1497 days)
Posts: 19762
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Message 75 of 86 (116789)
06-19-2004 11:52 PM
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06-19-2004 11:43 PM


Bush's economic policy was very much like Reagan's. Since we're talking about the legacy of Reagan, doesn't it make sense to include the effect of those who continued Reagan's policies?
Sure, if you say so. I was like 12 at the time or something. No, it does make sense. But I'm not really a part of the discussion; I was just trying to correct what I thought was a misunderstanding. But I see that it was I who was wrong.

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