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Topic: Size of singularity
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Jerry
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Message 1 of 34 (113231)
06-07-2004 6:48 AM
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Can someone tell me why it was decided that the pre big bang singularity was a speck smaller than a proton instead of maybe a speck the size of a pea or a baseball or a black hole? Also, am I correct in believing that the creator of this theory also believes that that speck contained all of the matter of this universe?
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Jerry
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Message 3 of 34 (113239)
06-07-2004 7:23 AM
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Something from nothing
Well, I guess it all boils down to the same old thing. It seems that almost everyone I talk to believe that something and everything (matter and anti-matter) can be made from nothing. I one the other hand believe that everything is made out of something. It may be smaller (and small is a relative term) than man is capable of measuring or seeing but I believe it still exists. It is my uneducated opinion that when matter and antimatter come together they disintigrate each other but the smaller particles do not cease to exist. This is unprovable but I do know that matter exists and I don't know what nothing is so I guess I should stop worrying about what others think.
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Jerry
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Message 6 of 34 (113256)
06-07-2004 8:42 AM
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Reply to: Message 5 by Dr Jack 06-07-2004 7:26 AM
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I was just reading an article about dark matter and it said "Possibilites for dark matter range from tiny subatomic particles weighing 1000,000 times less than an electron to black holes with masses millions of times that of the sun". That doesn't sound like a sigularity to me. And yes I have been asking for a long time and it always boils down to the same thing. Almost everyone believes at one time there was no time, space or matter. I don't buy it.
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Jerry
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Message 12 of 34 (113542)
06-08-2004 6:52 AM
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Jar- Yes I absolutely know that something exists today and I don't believe there could have been a time when something didn't exist. ---------- If there was something smaller than what is called the quantum level and therefore imposssible for man to see would that stuff be classified as nothing even though it might be the building blocks of matter and the building blocks of everything? ---------- I think I first heard the term "speck" in Discover magazine. ---------- TV and scientists can only explain theories and evidence that leads to conclusions that could be wrong. ---------- Can someone tell me where this singularity was located or am I correct in assuming that in most peoples opinion that it was nowhere, it had no location because there was no space or time or anything?
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Jerry
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Message 15 of 34 (113547)
06-08-2004 7:35 AM
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You are absolutely correct. I should not be discussing my views with people who believe that something can be made from nothing and put in a space where there was no space. And you know, if something can be made from nothing it's even possible that some Great Omnipotent Diety did it. I try to stay away from that one too. Thanks for straightening me out.
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Jerry
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Message 27 of 34 (113809)
06-09-2004 8:12 AM
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Reply to: Message 26 by Jason 06-09-2004 6:26 AM
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1,61803 Is energy totally devoid of any mass? Why is energy energy? Is it caused by interaction of more than 1 substance? ---------- And back to where the sigularity was located. To answer my own question, it was not located "here" as Crashfrog put it, it wasn't located anywhere, because acording to science nothing existed before the big bang. There was no space for it to be located in so it created it's own space from nothing so it could created itself. And beyond the space that this universe occupies now there is more of this undescribable nothing. If this is rational I think somehow I made a wrong turn somewhere and ended up on the wrong planet. But I keep forgetting that Earth scientist say this is the way it is so it must be true no matter how illogical it sounds.
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